From: Camille Moncelier <pix@devlife.org>
To: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
ext4 development <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [ext3] Changes to block device after an ext3 mount point has been remounted readonly
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:42:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <baaef4711002230042p3d6fa7fam5a80174269773d48@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16F918FB-F45D-478E-9358-550BB39E277E@sun.com>
The fact is that I've been able to reproduce the problem on LVM block
devices, and sd* block devices so it's definitely not a loop device
specific problem.
By the way, I tried several other things other than "echo s
>/proc/sysrq_trigger" I tried multiple sync followed with a one minute
"sleep",
"echo 3 >/proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" seems to lower the chances of "hash
changes" but doesn't stops them.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Andreas Dilger <adilger@sun.com> wrote:
> On 2010-02-22, at 16:05, Jan Kara wrote:
>>
>> Hmm, and apparently there is some subtlety in the loopback device code
>> because even when I use sync(1), the first and second images sometimes
>> differ (although it's much rarer). But I see a commit block of the
>> transaction already in the first image (the commit block is written last)
>> but the contents of the transaction is present only in the second image.
>
>
> It has never been safe to run ext3 on top of a loop device, because the loop
> device does not preserve ordering, and I'm not sure whether it properly
> passes barriers either.
>
> Cheers, Andreas
> --
> Andreas Dilger
> Sr. Staff Engineer, Lustre Group
> Sun Microsystems of Canada, Inc.
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-23 8:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-18 16:45 [ext3] Changes to block device after an ext3 mount point has been remounted readonly PiX
2010-02-18 16:50 ` Camille Moncelier
2010-02-18 21:41 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-02-19 7:38 ` Camille Moncelier
2010-02-22 22:32 ` Jan Kara
2010-02-22 23:05 ` Jan Kara
2010-02-22 23:09 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-02-23 8:42 ` Camille Moncelier [this message]
2010-02-23 13:55 ` Jan Kara
2010-02-24 16:01 ` Dmitry Monakhov
2010-02-24 16:26 ` Camille Moncelier
2010-02-24 16:59 ` Jan Kara
2010-02-24 16:56 ` Jan Kara
2010-03-02 9:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-02 10:01 ` Dmitry Monakhov
2010-03-02 13:26 ` Jan Kara
2010-03-02 23:10 ` Joel Becker
2010-02-24 16:57 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-02-24 17:05 ` Jan Kara
2010-02-24 17:26 ` Dmitry Monakhov
2010-02-24 21:36 ` Jan Kara
2010-03-02 10:29 ` Nick Piggin
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