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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>, Pankaj Raghav <p.raghav@samsung.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC v2 0/2] add THP_HUGE_ZERO_PAGE_ALWAYS config option
Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 14:01:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bb57ac40-5579-455f-be79-f0e373d5569d@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aC8LGDwJXvlDl866@kernel.org>

On 22.05.25 13:31, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> Hi Pankaj,
> 
> On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 11:02:41AM +0200, Pankaj Raghav wrote:
>> There are many places in the kernel where we need to zeroout larger
>> chunks but the maximum segment we can zeroout at a time by ZERO_PAGE
>> is limited by PAGE_SIZE.
>>
>> This concern was raised during the review of adding Large Block Size support
>> to XFS[1][2].
>>
>> This is especially annoying in block devices and filesystems where we
>> attach multiple ZERO_PAGEs to the bio in different bvecs. With multipage
>> bvec support in block layer, it is much more efficient to send out
>> larger zero pages as a part of a single bvec.
>>
>> Some examples of places in the kernel where this could be useful:
>> - blkdev_issue_zero_pages()
>> - iomap_dio_zero()
>> - vmalloc.c:zero_iter()
>> - rxperf_process_call()
>> - fscrypt_zeroout_range_inline_crypt()
>> - bch2_checksum_update()
>> ...
>>
>> We already have huge_zero_folio that is allocated on demand, and it will be
>> deallocated by the shrinker if there are no users of it left.
>>
>> But to use huge_zero_folio, we need to pass a mm struct and the
>> put_folio needs to be called in the destructor. This makes sense for
>> systems that have memory constraints but for bigger servers, it does not
>> matter if the PMD size is reasonable (like x86).
>>
>> Add a config option THP_HUGE_ZERO_PAGE_ALWAYS that will always allocate
>> the huge_zero_folio, and it will never be freed. This makes using the
>> huge_zero_folio without having to pass any mm struct and a call to put_folio
>> in the destructor.
> 
> I don't think this config option should be tied to THP. It's perfectly
> sensible to have a configuration with HUGETLB and without THP.

Such configs are getting rarer ...

I assume we would then simply reuse that page from THP code if available?

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb


      parent reply	other threads:[~2025-05-22 12:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-22  9:02 [RFC v2 0/2] add THP_HUGE_ZERO_PAGE_ALWAYS config option Pankaj Raghav
2025-05-22  9:02 ` [RFC v2 1/2] mm: " Pankaj Raghav
2025-05-22  9:02 ` [RFC v2 2/2] block: use mm_huge_zero_folio in __blkdev_issue_zero_pages() Pankaj Raghav
2025-05-22 11:31 ` [RFC v2 0/2] add THP_HUGE_ZERO_PAGE_ALWAYS config option Mike Rapoport
2025-05-22 12:00   ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-05-22 12:04     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 12:34       ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-05-22 12:50         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 13:34           ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-05-22 12:01   ` David Hildenbrand [this message]

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