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From: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Ritesh Harjani <ritesh.list@gmail.com>,
	chandan.babu@oracle.com, djwong@kernel.org, dchinner@redhat.com,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, brauner@kernel.org, jack@suse.cz,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, catherine.hoang@oracle.com,
	martin.petersen@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/14] forcealign for xfs
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2024 13:33:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c702379b-3f37-448d-ac28-ec1e248a6c65@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240923120715.GA13585@lst.de>

On 23/09/2024 13:07, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 09:16:22AM +0100, John Garry wrote:
>> Outside the block allocator changes, most changes for forcealign are just
>> refactoring the RT big alloc unit checks. So - as you have said previously
>> - this so-called madness is already there. How can the sanity be improved?
> 
> As a first step by not making it worse, and that not only means not
> spreading the rtextent stuff further,

I assume that refactoring rtextent into "big alloc unit" is spreading 
(rtextent stuff), right? If so, what other solution? CoW?

> but more importantly not introducing
> additional complexities by requiring to be able to write over the
> written/unwritten boundaries created by either rtextentsize > 1 or
> the forcealign stuff if you actually want atomic writes.

The very original solution required a single mapping and in written 
state for atomic writes. Reverting to that would save a lot of hassle in 
the kernel. It just means that the user needs to manually pre-zero.

> 
>> To me, yes, there are so many "if (RT)" checks and special cases in the
>> code, which makes a maintenance headache.
> 
> Replacing them with a different condition doesn't really make that
> any better.

I am just saying that the rtextent stuff is not nice, but it is not 
going away. I suppose a tiny perk is that "big alloc unit" checks are 
better than "if (rt)" checks, as it makes the condition slightly more 
obvious.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-23 12:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-13 16:36 [PATCH v4 00/14] forcealign for xfs John Garry
2024-08-13 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] xfs: only allow minlen allocations when near ENOSPC John Garry
2024-08-23 16:28   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-08-13 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] xfs: always tail align maxlen allocations John Garry
2024-08-23 16:31   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-08-29 17:58     ` John Garry
2024-08-29 21:34       ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-08-13 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] xfs: simplify extent allocation alignment John Garry
2024-08-13 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] xfs: make EOF allocation simpler John Garry
2024-09-04 18:25   ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-09-05  7:51     ` John Garry
2024-08-13 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] xfs: introduce forced allocation alignment John Garry
2024-08-13 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] xfs: align args->minlen for " John Garry
2024-08-13 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] xfs: Introduce FORCEALIGN inode flag John Garry
2024-08-13 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] xfs: Update xfs_inode_alloc_unitsize() for forcealign John Garry
2024-08-13 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] xfs: Update xfs_setattr_size() " John Garry
2024-08-13 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] xfs: Do not free EOF blocks " John Garry
2024-08-13 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] xfs: Only free full extents " John Garry
2024-08-13 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] xfs: Unmap blocks according to forcealign John Garry
2024-08-23 16:35   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-08-13 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] xfs: Don't revert allocated offset for forcealign John Garry
2024-08-13 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] xfs: Enable file data forcealign feature John Garry
2024-09-04 18:14 ` [PATCH v4 00/14] forcealign for xfs Ritesh Harjani
2024-09-04 23:20   ` Dave Chinner
2024-09-05  3:56     ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-09-05  6:33       ` Dave Chinner
2024-09-10  2:51         ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-09-16  6:33           ` Dave Chinner
2024-09-10 12:33         ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-09-16  7:03           ` Dave Chinner
2024-09-16 10:24             ` John Garry
2024-09-17 20:54               ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-09-17 23:34                 ` Dave Chinner
2024-09-17 22:12               ` Dave Chinner
2024-09-18  7:59                 ` John Garry
2024-09-23  2:57                   ` Dave Chinner
2024-09-23  3:33                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-23  8:16                       ` John Garry
2024-09-23 12:07                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-23 12:33                           ` John Garry [this message]
2024-09-24  6:17                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-24  9:48                               ` John Garry
2024-11-29 11:36                                 ` John Garry
2024-09-23  8:00                     ` John Garry
2024-09-05 10:15     ` John Garry
2024-09-05 21:47       ` Dave Chinner
2024-09-06 14:31         ` John Garry
2024-09-08 22:49           ` Dave Chinner
2024-09-09 16:18             ` John Garry
2024-09-16  5:25               ` Dave Chinner
2024-09-16  9:44                 ` John Garry
2024-09-17 22:27                   ` Dave Chinner
2024-09-18 10:12                     ` John Garry
2024-11-14 12:48                       ` Long Li
2024-11-14 16:22                         ` John Garry
2024-11-14 20:07                         ` Dave Chinner
2024-11-15  8:14                           ` John Garry
2024-11-15 11:20                           ` Long Li

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