From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/9] mm/memory: convert print_bad_pte() to print_bad_page_map()
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2025 13:04:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c8b9c805-2760-4b90-951a-3666cad6a4a4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200da552-4fc7-44d8-bbea-1669b4b45cf5@lucifer.local>
>
> Yeah sorry I was in 'what locks do we need' mode and hadn't shifted back here,
> but I guess the intent is that the caller _must_ hold this lock.
>
> I know it's nitty and annoying (sorry!) but as asserting seems to not be a
> possibility here, could we spell these out as a series of points like:
>
> /*
> * The caller MUST hold the following locks:
> *
> * - Leaf page table lock
> * - Appropriate VMA lock to keep VMA stable
> */
>
> I don't _actually_ think you need the rmap lock then, as none of the page tables
> you access would be impacted by any rmap action afaict, with these locks held.
I don't enjoy wrong comments ;)
This can be called from rmap code when doing a vm_normal_page() while
holding the PTL.
Really, I think we are over-thinking a helper that is triggered in
specific context when the world is about to collide.
This is not your general-purpose API.
Maybe I should have never added a comment. Maybe I should just not have
done this patch, because I really don't want to do more than the bare
minimum to print_bad_page_map().
Because I deeply detest it, and no comments we will add will change that.
[...]
>>> But can you truly be sure of these existing? And we should then assert them
>>> here no? For rmap though we'd need the folio/vma.
>>
>> I hope you realize that this nastiness of a code is called in case our
>> system is already running into something extremely unexpected and will
>> probably be dead soon.
>>
>> So I am not to interested in adding anything more here. If you run into this
>> code you're in big trouble already.
>
> Yes am aware :) my concern is NULL ptr deref or UAF, but with the locks
> held as stated those won't occur.
>
> But f it's not sensible to do it then we don't have to :) I am a reasonable
> man, or like to think I am ;)
>
> But I think we need clarity as per the above.
>
>>
>>>
>>>> + pgdp = pgd_offset(mm, addr);
>>>> + pgdv = pgd_val(*pgdp);
>>>
>>> Before I went and looked again at the commit msg I said:
>>>
>>> "Shoudln't we strictly speaking use pgdp_get()? I see you use this
>>> helper for other levels."
>>>
>>> But obviously yeah. You explained the insane reason why not.
>>
>> Had to find out the hard way ... :)
>
> Pain.
>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> +/*
>>>> + * This function is called to print an error when a bad page table entry (e.g.,
>>>> + * corrupted page table entry) is found. For example, we might have a
>>>> + * PFN-mapped pte in a region that doesn't allow it.
>>>> + *
>>>> + * The calling function must still handle the error.
>>>> + */
>>>
>>> We have extremely strict locking conditions for the page table traversal... but
>>> no mention of them here?
>>
>> Yeah, I can add that.
>
> Thanks!
>
>>
>>>
>>>> +static void print_bad_page_map(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>>> + unsigned long addr, unsigned long long entry, struct page *page)
>>>> +{
>>>> + struct address_space *mapping;
>>>> + pgoff_t index;
>>>> +
>>>> + if (is_bad_page_map_ratelimited())
>>>> + return;
>>>>
>>>> mapping = vma->vm_file ? vma->vm_file->f_mapping : NULL;
>>>> index = linear_page_index(vma, addr);
>>>>
>>>> - pr_alert("BUG: Bad page map in process %s pte:%08llx pmd:%08llx\n",
>>>> - current->comm,
>>>> - (long long)pte_val(pte), (long long)pmd_val(*pmd));
>>>> + pr_alert("BUG: Bad page map in process %s entry:%08llx", current->comm, entry);
>>>
>>> Sort of wonder if this is even useful if you don't know what the 'entry'
>>> is? But I guess the dump below will tell you.
>>
>> You probably missed in the patch description:
>>
>> "Whether it is a PTE or something else will usually become obvious from the
>> page table dump or from the dumped stack. If ever required in the future, we
>> could pass the entry level type similar to "enum rmap_level". For now, let's
>> keep it simple."
>
> Yeah sorry I glossed over the commit msg, and now I pay for it ;) OK this
> is fine then.
Let me play with indicating the page table level, but it's the kind of
stuff I wouldn't want to do in this series here.
>>
>>>
>>> Then we have VM_IO, which strictly must not have an associated page right?
>>
>> VM_IO just means read/write side-effects, I think you could have ones with
>> an memmap easily ... e.g., memory section (128MiB) spanning both memory and
>> MMIO regions.
>
> Hmm, but why not have two separate VMAs? I guess I need to look into more
> what this flag actually effects.
Oh, I meant, that we might have a "struct page" for MMIO memory
(pfn_valid() == true).
In a MIXEDMAP that will get refcounted. Not sure if there are users that
use VM_IO in a MIXEDMAP, I would assume so but didn't check.
So VM_IO doesn't really interact with vm_normal_page(), really. It's all
about PFNMAP and MIXEDMAP.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-18 11:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-17 11:52 [PATCH v2 0/9] mm: vm_normal_page*() improvements David Hildenbrand
2025-07-17 11:52 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] mm/huge_memory: move more common code into insert_pmd() David Hildenbrand
2025-07-17 15:34 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25 2:47 ` Wei Yang
2025-07-17 11:52 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] mm/huge_memory: move more common code into insert_pud() David Hildenbrand
2025-07-17 15:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25 2:56 ` Wei Yang
2025-07-17 11:52 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] mm/huge_memory: support huge zero folio in vmf_insert_folio_pmd() David Hildenbrand
2025-07-17 15:47 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25 8:07 ` Wei Yang
2025-07-17 11:52 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] fs/dax: use vmf_insert_folio_pmd() to insert the huge zero folio David Hildenbrand
2025-07-17 18:09 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-17 11:52 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] mm/huge_memory: mark PMD mappings of the huge zero folio special David Hildenbrand
2025-07-17 18:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-17 20:31 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-18 10:41 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-18 10:54 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-18 13:06 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-28 8:49 ` Wei Yang
2025-07-17 11:52 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] mm/memory: convert print_bad_pte() to print_bad_page_map() David Hildenbrand
2025-07-17 19:17 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-17 20:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-18 10:15 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-18 11:04 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-07-18 12:55 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-17 22:06 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-18 7:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-18 7:59 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-18 8:26 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-17 11:52 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] mm/memory: factor out common code from vm_normal_page_*() David Hildenbrand
2025-07-17 19:51 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-17 19:55 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-17 20:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-18 12:43 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-30 12:54 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-30 13:24 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-17 20:12 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-18 12:35 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-17 11:52 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] mm: introduce and use vm_normal_page_pud() David Hildenbrand
2025-07-17 20:03 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-17 20:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-18 10:47 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-18 11:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-18 12:44 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-29 7:52 ` Wei Yang
2025-07-17 11:52 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] mm: rename vm_ops->find_special_page() to vm_ops->find_normal_page() David Hildenbrand
2025-07-17 20:07 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-29 7:53 ` Wei Yang
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