From: "Michael Kerrisk" <mtk.manpages-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
To: "Jamie Lokier" <jamie-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Al Viro"
<viro-RmSDqhL/yNMiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>,
"Miklos Szeredi" <miklos-sUDqSbJrdHQHWmgEVkV9KA@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] utimensat() non-conformances and fixes [v3]
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 13:39:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cfd18e0f0806030439n5a11fa4aocd6251ffab66b6dd@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080603113018.GA27955-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Jamie Lokier <jamie-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Michael Kerrisk wrote:
>> > FWIW, I very much doubt that you are right wrt required
>> > permissions, though. AFAICS, intent here is "if you can write to
>> > file, you can touch the timestamps anyway" and having descriptor
>> > opened for write gives that, current permissions be damned.
>>
>> The standard is pretty clear on this point:
>>
>> [[
>> Only a process with the effective user ID equal to the user ID of the
>> file, or with write access to the file, or with appropriate privileges
>> may use futimens( ) or utimensat( ) with a null pointer as the times
>> argument or with both tv_nsec fields set to the special value
>> UTIME_NOW.
>> ]]
>>
>> The crucial words here are "a process ... with write access to the
>> file" -- in other words, the permissions are determined by the
>> process's credentials, not by the access mode of the file descriptor.
>> I was not 100% sure on that to start with, so I did check it out with
>> one of the folk at The Open Group, to make sure of my understanding.
>
> Is there anything else where the file descriptor's access mode allows
> doing things on Linux, but the standard requires a permissions check
> each time?
Jamie,
I can't think of examples offhand -- but I'm also not quite sure what
your question is about. Could you say a little more?
Cheers,
Michael
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Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-16 8:31 [PATCH] utimensat() non-conformances and fixes -- version 2 Michael Kerrisk
[not found] ` <482D4665.4050401-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-16 8:34 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-05-16 16:59 ` Miklos Szeredi
[not found] ` <E1Jx3Gw-0002eA-55-8f8m9JG5TPIdUIPVzhDTVZP2KDSNp7ea@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-17 19:57 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-05-19 9:50 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-05-19 10:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-05-19 12:24 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-05-19 13:17 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-05-30 15:34 ` [PATCH] utimensat() non-conformances and fixes [v3] Michael Kerrisk
[not found] ` <48401E7E.9090304-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-30 16:37 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-05-30 18:24 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-05-30 19:22 ` Miklos Szeredi
[not found] ` <E1K2ABK-0002ck-UT-8f8m9JG5TPIdUIPVzhDTVZP2KDSNp7ea@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-30 19:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
[not found] ` <20080530193207.GB28074-6jwH94ZQLHl74goWV3ctuw@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-30 20:08 ` Miklos Szeredi
[not found] ` <cfd18e0f0805301124o5f217dden10726b268d05d81a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-30 19:43 ` Michael Kerrisk
[not found] ` <cfd18e0f0805301243h7d862963o8320a2c1f48942ce-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-30 20:17 ` Miklos Szeredi
[not found] ` <E1K2B2k-0002kS-Cz-8f8m9JG5TPIdUIPVzhDTVZP2KDSNp7ea@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-31 5:28 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-05-30 20:17 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-31 5:44 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-06-03 11:05 ` Michael Kerrisk
[not found] ` <cfd18e0f0806030405u1c32b114pa0fdd979f36f87fb-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-03 11:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-03 11:22 ` Al Viro
2008-06-03 11:27 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-06-03 11:30 ` Jamie Lokier
[not found] ` <20080603113018.GA27955-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-03 11:39 ` Michael Kerrisk [this message]
2008-06-03 11:49 ` Al Viro
[not found] ` <20080603114921.GX28946-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-03 11:58 ` Al Viro
2008-06-03 12:01 ` Jamie Lokier
[not found] ` <20080603120135.GA28905-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-03 12:08 ` Al Viro
[not found] ` <20080603120850.GZ28946-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-03 12:10 ` Jamie Lokier
[not found] ` <20080603112221.GW28946-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-03 12:16 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-03 13:05 ` Al Viro
2008-06-03 11:52 ` Michael Kerrisk
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