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* Re: Ext3 sequential read performance drop 2.6.29 -> 2.6.30,2.6.31,...
       [not found] <20091013120955.6bd5844b@smartjog.com>
@ 2009-10-13 13:10 ` Laurent CORBES
  2009-11-02 21:55 ` Andrew Morton
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Laurent CORBES @ 2009-10-13 13:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel, linux-fsdevel

Some updates and added linux-fsdevel in the loop:

> While benchmarking some systems I discover a big sequential read performance
> drop using ext3 on ~ big files. The drop seems to be introduced in 2.6.30. I'm
> testing with 2.6.28.6 -> 2.6.29.6 -> 2.6.30.4 -> 2.6.31.3.
> 
> I'm running a software raid6 (chunk 256k) on 6 750Go 7200rpm disks. here are
> the raw datas of disks and raid device:
> 
> $ dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=1M count=10240
> 10240+0 records in
> 10240+0 records out
> 10737418240 bytes (11 GB) copied, 98.7483 seconds, 109 MB/s
> 
> $ dd if=/dev/md7 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=10240
> 10240+0 records in
> 10240+0 records out
> 10737418240 bytes (11 GB) copied, 34.8744 seconds, 308 MB/s
> 
> Over the different kernels changes here are not important (~1MB on the raw disk
> and ~5MB on the raid device). The write of a 10GB file over the fs here is also
> almost constant at ~100MB/s.
> 
> $ dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/space/benchtmp//dd.out bs=1M count=10240
> 10240+0 records in
> 10240+0 records out
> 10737418240 bytes (11 GB) copied, 102.547 seconds, 105 MB/s
> 
> However while reading this file there is a huge perf drop between 2.6.29.6 and
> 2.6.30.4 and 2.6.31.3:

I add slabtop infos before and after the runs for 2.6.28.6 and 2.6.31.3. run is
just after a system reboot

 Active / Total Objects (% used)    : 83612 / 90199 (92.7%)
 Active / Total Slabs (% used)      : 4643 / 4643 (100.0%)
 Active / Total Caches (% used)     : 93 / 150 (62.0%)
 Active / Total Size (% used)       : 16989.63K / 17858.85K (95.1%)
 Minimum / Average / Maximum Object : 0.01K / 0.20K / 4096.00K

  OBJS ACTIVE  USE OBJ SIZE  SLABS OBJ/SLAB CACHE SIZE NAME
 20820  20688  99%    0.12K    694       30      2776K dentry
 12096  12029  99%    0.04K    144       84       576K sysfs_dir_cache
  8701   8523  97%    0.03K     77      113       308K size-32
  6036   6018  99%    0.32K    503       12      2012K inode_cache
  4757   4646  97%    0.05K     71       67       284K buffer_head
  4602   4254  92%    0.06K     78       59       312K size-64
  4256   4256 100%    0.47K    532        8      2128K ext3_inode_cache
  3864   3607  93%    0.08K     84       46       336K vm_area_struct
  2509   2509 100%    0.28K    193       13       772K radix_tree_node
  2130   1373  64%    0.12K     71       30       284K filp
  1962   1938  98%    0.41K    218        9       872K shmem_inode_cache
  1580   1580 100%    0.19K     79       20       316K skbuff_head_cache
  1524   1219  79%    0.01K      6      254        24K anon_vma
  1450   1450 100%    2.00K    725        2      2900K size-2048
  1432   1382  96%    0.50K    179        8       716K size-512
  1260   1198  95%    0.12K     42       30       168K size-128

> 2.6.28.6:
> sj-dev-7:/mnt/space/Benchmark# dd if=dd.out of=/dev/null bs=1M
> 10240+0 records in
> 10240+0 records out
> 10737418240 bytes (11 GB) copied, 43.8288 seconds, 245 MB/s

 Active / Total Objects (% used)    : 78853 / 90405 (87.2%)
 Active / Total Slabs (% used)      : 5079 / 5084 (99.9%)
 Active / Total Caches (% used)     : 93 / 150 (62.0%)
 Active / Total Size (% used)       : 17612.24K / 19391.84K (90.8%)
 Minimum / Average / Maximum Object : 0.01K / 0.21K / 4096.00K

  OBJS ACTIVE  USE OBJ SIZE  SLABS OBJ/SLAB CACHE SIZE NAME
 17589  17488  99%    0.28K   1353       13      5412K radix_tree_node
 12096  12029  99%    0.04K    144       84       576K sysfs_dir_cache
  9840   5659  57%    0.12K    328       30      1312K dentry
  8701   8568  98%    0.03K     77      113       308K size-32
  5226   4981  95%    0.05K     78       67       312K buffer_head
  4602   4366  94%    0.06K     78       59       312K size-64
  4264   4253  99%    0.47K    533        8      2132K ext3_inode_cache
  3726   3531  94%    0.08K     81       46       324K vm_area_struct
  2130   1364  64%    0.12K     71       30       284K filp
  1962   1938  98%    0.41K    218        9       872K shmem_inode_cache
  1580   1460  92%    0.19K     79       20       316K skbuff_head_cache
  1548   1406  90%    0.32K    129       12       516K inode_cache
  1524   1228  80%    0.01K      6      254        24K anon_vma
  1450   1424  98%    2.00K    725        2      2900K size-2048
  1432   1370  95%    0.50K    179        8       716K size-512
  1260   1202  95%    0.12K     42       30       168K size-128


> 2.6.29.6:
> sj-dev-7:/mnt/space/Benchmark# dd if=dd.out of=/dev/null bs=1M
> 10240+0 records in
> 10240+0 records out
> 10737418240 bytes (11 GB) copied, 42.745 seconds, 251 MB/s
> 
> 2.6.30.4:
> $ dd if=/mnt/space/benchtmp//dd.out of=/dev/null bs=1M
> 10240+0 records in
> 10240+0 records out
> 10737418240 bytes (11 GB) copied, 48.621 seconds, 221 MB/s


 Active / Total Objects (% used)    : 88438 / 97670 (90.5%)
 Active / Total Slabs (% used)      : 5451 / 5451 (100.0%)
 Active / Total Caches (% used)     : 93 / 155 (60.0%)
 Active / Total Size (% used)       : 19564.52K / 20948.54K (93.4%)
 Minimum / Average / Maximum Object : 0.01K / 0.21K / 4096.00K

  OBJS ACTIVE  USE OBJ SIZE  SLABS OBJ/SLAB CACHE SIZE NAME
 21547  21527  99%    0.13K    743       29      2972K dentry
 12684  12636  99%    0.04K    151       84       604K sysfs_dir_cache
  8927   8639  96%    0.03K     79      113       316K size-32
  6721   6720  99%    0.33K    611       11      2444K inode_cache
  4425   4007  90%    0.06K     75       59       300K size-64
  4240   4237  99%    0.48K    530        8      2120K ext3_inode_cache
  4154   4089  98%    0.05K     62       67       248K buffer_head
  3910   3574  91%    0.08K     85       46       340K vm_area_struct
  2483   2449  98%    0.28K    191       13       764K radix_tree_node
  2280   1330  58%    0.12K     76       30       304K filp
  2240   2132  95%    0.19K    112       20       448K skbuff_head_cache
  2198   2198 100%    2.00K   1099        2      4396K size-2048
  1935   1910  98%    0.43K    215        9       860K shmem_inode_cache
  1770   1738  98%    0.12K     59       30       236K size-96
  1524   1278  83%    0.01K      6      254        24K anon_vma
  1056    936  88%    0.50K    132        8       528K size-512

> 2.6.31.3:
> sj-dev-7:/mnt/space/Benchmark# dd if=dd.out of=/dev/null bs=1M
> 10240+0 records in
> 10240+0 records out
> 10737418240 bytes (11 GB) copied, 51.4148 seconds, 209 MB/s

 Active / Total Objects (% used)    : 81843 / 97478 (84.0%)
 Active / Total Slabs (% used)      : 5759 / 5763 (99.9%)
 Active / Total Caches (% used)     : 92 / 155 (59.4%)
 Active / Total Size (% used)       : 19486.81K / 22048.45K (88.4%)
 Minimum / Average / Maximum Object : 0.01K / 0.23K / 4096.00K

  OBJS ACTIVE  USE OBJ SIZE  SLABS OBJ/SLAB CACHE SIZE NAME
 17589  17426  99%    0.28K   1353       13      5412K radix_tree_node
 12684  12636  99%    0.04K    151       84       604K sysfs_dir_cache
 10991   6235  56%    0.13K    379       29      1516K dentry
  8927   8624  96%    0.03K     79      113       316K size-32
  4824   4819  99%    0.05K     72       67       288K buffer_head
  4425   3853  87%    0.06K     75       59       300K size-64
  3910   3527  90%    0.08K     85       46       340K vm_area_struct
  3560   3268  91%    0.48K    445        8      1780K ext3_inode_cache
  2288   1394  60%    0.33K    208       11       832K inode_cache
  2280   1236  54%    0.12K     76       30       304K filp
  2240   2183  97%    0.19K    112       20       448K skbuff_head_cache
  2216   2191  98%    2.00K   1108        2      4432K size-2048
  1935   1910  98%    0.43K    215        9       860K shmem_inode_cache
  1770   1719  97%    0.12K     59       30       236K size-96
  1524   1203  78%    0.01K      6      254        24K anon_vma
  1056    921  87%    0.50K    132        8       528K size-512


> ... Things going worst over time ...
> 
> Numbers are average over ~10 runs each.
> 
> I first check for stripe/stride aligment of the ext3 fs that is quite important
> in raid6. I recheck it and everything seems fine from my understandings and
> formula:
> raid6 chunk 256k -> stride = 64. 4 data disks -> stripe-width = 256 ?
> 
> In both case I'm using cfq IO scheduler and no special tuning is done with it.
> 
> 
> For informations the test server is a Dell PowerEdge R710 with SAS 6iR, 4GB
> ram and 6*750GB sata disks. I got the same behavior on PE2950 Perc6i, 2GB
> ram and 6*750GB sata disks. 
> 
> Here are misc informations about the setup:
> sj-dev-7:/mnt/space/Benchmark# cat /proc/mdstat 
> md7 : active raid6 sdf7[5] sde7[4] sdd7[3] sdc7[2] sdb7[1] sda7[0]
>       2923443200 blocks level 6, 256k chunk, algorithm 2 [6/6] [UUUUUU]
>       bitmap: 0/175 pages [0KB], 2048KB chunk
> 
> sj-dev-7:/mnt/space/Benchmark# dumpe2fs -h /dev/md7
> dumpe2fs 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
> Filesystem volume name:   <none>
> Last mounted on:          <not available>
> Filesystem UUID:          9c29f236-e4f2-4db4-bf48-ea613cd0ebad
> Filesystem magic number:  0xEF53
> Filesystem revision #:    1 (dynamic)
> Filesystem features:      has_journal resize_inode dir_index filetype
> needs_recovery sparse_super large_file Filesystem flags:         signed
> directory hash Default mount options:    (none)
> Filesystem state:         clean
> Errors behavior:          Continue
> Filesystem OS type:       Linux
> Inode count:              713760
> Block count:              730860800
> Reserved block count:     0
> Free blocks:              705211695
> Free inodes:              713655
> First block:              0
> Block size:               4096
> Fragment size:            4096
> Reserved GDT blocks:      849
> Blocks per group:         32768
> Fragments per group:      32768
> Inodes per group:         32
> Inode blocks per group:   1
> Filesystem created:       Thu Oct  1 15:45:01 2009
> Last mount time:          Mon Oct 12 13:17:45 2009
> Last write time:          Mon Oct 12 13:17:45 2009
> Mount count:              10
> Maximum mount count:      30
> Last checked:             Thu Oct  1 15:45:01 2009
> Check interval:           15552000 (6 months)
> Next check after:         Tue Mar 30 15:45:01 2010
> Reserved blocks uid:      0 (user root)
> Reserved blocks gid:      0 (group root)
> First inode:              11
> Inode size:               128
> Journal inode:            8
> Default directory hash:   tea
> Directory Hash Seed:      378d4fd2-23c9-487c-b635-5601585f0da7
> Journal backup:           inode blocks
> Journal size:             128M

Thanks all.
-- 
Laurent Corbes - laurent.corbes@smartjog.com
SmartJog SAS | Phone: +33 1 5868 6225 | Fax: +33 1 5868 6255 | www.smartjog.com
27 Blvd Hippolyte Marquès, 94200 Ivry-sur-Seine, France
A TDF Group company

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* Re: Ext3 sequential read performance drop 2.6.29 -> 2.6.30,2.6.31,...
       [not found] <20091013120955.6bd5844b@smartjog.com>
  2009-10-13 13:10 ` Ext3 sequential read performance drop 2.6.29 -> 2.6.30,2.6.31, Laurent CORBES
@ 2009-11-02 21:55 ` Andrew Morton
  2009-11-03 10:06   ` Christoph Hellwig
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Morton @ 2009-11-02 21:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Laurent CORBES; +Cc: linux-fsdevel, dm-devel, linux-kernel

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:09:55 +0200
Laurent CORBES <laurent.corbes@smartjog.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> While benchmarking some systems I discover a big sequential read performance
> drop using ext3 on ~ big files. The drop seems to be introduced in 2.6.30. I'm
> testing with 2.6.28.6 -> 2.6.29.6 -> 2.6.30.4 -> 2.6.31.3.

Seems that large performance regressions aren't of interest to this
list :(

> I'm running a software raid6 (chunk 256k) on 6 750Go 7200rpm disks. here are
> the raw datas of disks and raid device:
> 
> $ dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=1M count=10240
> 10240+0 records in
> 10240+0 records out
> 10737418240 bytes (11 GB) copied, 98.7483 seconds, 109 MB/s
> 
> $ dd if=/dev/md7 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=10240
> 10240+0 records in
> 10240+0 records out
> 10737418240 bytes (11 GB) copied, 34.8744 seconds, 308 MB/s
> 
> Over the different kernels changes here are not important (~1MB on the raw disk
> and ~5MB on the raid device). The write of a 10GB file over the fs here is also
> almost constant at ~100MB/s.
> 
> $ dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/space/benchtmp//dd.out bs=1M count=10240
> 10240+0 records in
> 10240+0 records out
> 10737418240 bytes (11 GB) copied, 102.547 seconds, 105 MB/s
> 
> However while reading this file there is a huge perf drop between 2.6.29.6 and
> 2.6.30.4 and 2.6.31.3:
> 
> 2.6.28.6:
> sj-dev-7:/mnt/space/Benchmark# dd if=dd.out of=/dev/null bs=1M
> 10240+0 records in
> 10240+0 records out
> 10737418240 bytes (11 GB) copied, 43.8288 seconds, 245 MB/s
> 
> 2.6.29.6:
> sj-dev-7:/mnt/space/Benchmark# dd if=dd.out of=/dev/null bs=1M
> 10240+0 records in
> 10240+0 records out
> 10737418240 bytes (11 GB) copied, 42.745 seconds, 251 MB/s
> 
> 2.6.30.4:
> $ dd if=/mnt/space/benchtmp//dd.out of=/dev/null bs=1M
> 10240+0 records in
> 10240+0 records out
> 10737418240 bytes (11 GB) copied, 48.621 seconds, 221 MB/s
> 
> 2.6.31.3:
> sj-dev-7:/mnt/space/Benchmark# dd if=dd.out of=/dev/null bs=1M
> 10240+0 records in
> 10240+0 records out
> 10737418240 bytes (11 GB) copied, 51.4148 seconds, 209 MB/s
> 
> ... Things going worst over time ...

Did you do any further investigation?  Do you think the regression is
due to MD changes, or to something else?


Thanks.

> Numbers are average over ~10 runs each.
> 
> I first check for stripe/stride aligment of the ext3 fs that is quite important
> in raid6. I recheck it and everything seems fine from my understandings and
> formula:
> raid6 chunk 256k -> stride = 64. 4 data disks -> stripe-width = 256 ?
> 
> In both case I'm using cfq IO scheduler and no special tuning is done with it.
> 
> 
> For informations the test server is a Dell PowerEdge R710 with SAS 6iR, 4GB
> ram and 6*750GB sata disks. I got the same behavior on PE2950 Perc6i, 2GB
> ram and 6*750GB sata disks. 
> 
> Here are misc informations about the setup:
> sj-dev-7:/mnt/space/Benchmark# cat /proc/mdstat 
> md7 : active raid6 sdf7[5] sde7[4] sdd7[3] sdc7[2] sdb7[1] sda7[0]
>       2923443200 blocks level 6, 256k chunk, algorithm 2 [6/6] [UUUUUU]
>       bitmap: 0/175 pages [0KB], 2048KB chunk
> 
> sj-dev-7:/mnt/space/Benchmark# dumpe2fs -h /dev/md7
> dumpe2fs 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
> Filesystem volume name:   <none>
> Last mounted on:          <not available>
> Filesystem UUID:          9c29f236-e4f2-4db4-bf48-ea613cd0ebad
> Filesystem magic number:  0xEF53
> Filesystem revision #:    1 (dynamic)
> Filesystem features:      has_journal resize_inode dir_index filetype
> needs_recovery sparse_super large_file Filesystem flags:         signed
> directory hash Default mount options:    (none)
> Filesystem state:         clean
> Errors behavior:          Continue
> Filesystem OS type:       Linux
> Inode count:              713760
> Block count:              730860800
> Reserved block count:     0
> Free blocks:              705211695
> Free inodes:              713655
> First block:              0
> Block size:               4096
> Fragment size:            4096
> Reserved GDT blocks:      849
> Blocks per group:         32768
> Fragments per group:      32768
> Inodes per group:         32
> Inode blocks per group:   1
> Filesystem created:       Thu Oct  1 15:45:01 2009
> Last mount time:          Mon Oct 12 13:17:45 2009
> Last write time:          Mon Oct 12 13:17:45 2009
> Mount count:              10
> Maximum mount count:      30
> Last checked:             Thu Oct  1 15:45:01 2009
> Check interval:           15552000 (6 months)
> Next check after:         Tue Mar 30 15:45:01 2010
> Reserved blocks uid:      0 (user root)
> Reserved blocks gid:      0 (group root)
> First inode:              11
> Inode size:               128
> Journal inode:            8
> Default directory hash:   tea
> Directory Hash Seed:      378d4fd2-23c9-487c-b635-5601585f0da7
> Journal backup:           inode blocks
> Journal size:             128M
> 
> 
> Thanks all.
> 
> -- 
> Laurent Corbes - laurent.corbes@smartjog.com
> SmartJog SAS | Phone: +33 1 5868 6225 | Fax: +33 1 5868 6255 | www.smartjog.com
> 27 Blvd Hippolyte Marqu__s, 94200 Ivry-sur-Seine, France
> A TDF Group company
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* Re: Re: Ext3 sequential read performance drop 2.6.29 -> 2.6.30,2.6.31,...
  2009-11-02 21:55 ` Andrew Morton
@ 2009-11-03 10:06   ` Christoph Hellwig
  2009-11-03 10:42     ` NeilBrown
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Christoph Hellwig @ 2009-11-03 10:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: device-mapper development
  Cc: linux-fsdevel, linux-raid, Laurent CORBES, linux-kernel

On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 01:55:54PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:09:55 +0200
> Laurent CORBES <laurent.corbes@smartjog.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > While benchmarking some systems I discover a big sequential read performance
> > drop using ext3 on ~ big files. The drop seems to be introduced in 2.6.30. I'm
> > testing with 2.6.28.6 -> 2.6.29.6 -> 2.6.30.4 -> 2.6.31.3.
> 
> Seems that large performance regressions aren't of interest to this
> list :(

No sure which list you mean, but dm-devel is for dm, not md.  We're also
seeing similarly massive performance drops with md and ext3/xfs as
already reported on the list.  Someone tracked it down to writeback
changes as usual, but there it got stuck.

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* Re: Re: Ext3 sequential read performance drop 2.6.29 -> 2.6.30,2.6.31,...
  2009-11-03 10:06   ` Christoph Hellwig
@ 2009-11-03 10:42     ` NeilBrown
  2009-11-03 10:55       ` [dm-devel] " Laurent CORBES
  2009-11-03 16:50       ` Andrew Morton
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: NeilBrown @ 2009-11-03 10:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: device-mapper development, akpm
  Cc: linux-fsdevel, linux-raid, Laurent CORBES, linux-kernel

On Tue, November 3, 2009 9:06 pm, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 01:55:54PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:09:55 +0200
>> Laurent CORBES <laurent.corbes@smartjog.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > While benchmarking some systems I discover a big sequential read
>> performance
>> > drop using ext3 on ~ big files. The drop seems to be introduced in
>> 2.6.30. I'm
>> > testing with 2.6.28.6 -> 2.6.29.6 -> 2.6.30.4 -> 2.6.31.3.
>>
>> Seems that large performance regressions aren't of interest to this
>> list :(
>
> No sure which list you mean, but dm-devel is for dm, not md.  We're also
> seeing similarly massive performance drops with md and ext3/xfs as
> already reported on the list.  Someone tracked it down to writeback
> changes as usual, but there it got stuck.

I'm still looking - running some basic tests on 4 filesystems over
half a dozen recent kernels to see what has been happening.

I have a suspicion that there a multiple problems.
In particular, XFS has a strange degradation which was papered over
by commit c8a4051c3731b.
I'm beginning to wonder if it was caused by commit 17bc6c30cf6bf
but I haven't actually tested that yet.

NeilBrown

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* Re: [dm-devel] Re: Ext3 sequential read performance drop 2.6.29 -> 2.6.30,2.6.31,...
  2009-11-03 10:42     ` NeilBrown
@ 2009-11-03 10:55       ` Laurent CORBES
  2009-11-04  7:16         ` Neil Brown
  2009-11-03 16:50       ` Andrew Morton
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Laurent CORBES @ 2009-11-03 10:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: NeilBrown
  Cc: device-mapper development, akpm, linux-fsdevel, linux-raid,
	linux-kernel

Hi all,

> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > While benchmarking some systems I discover a big sequential read
> >> performance
> >> > drop using ext3 on ~ big files. The drop seems to be introduced in
> >> 2.6.30. I'm
> >> > testing with 2.6.28.6 -> 2.6.29.6 -> 2.6.30.4 -> 2.6.31.3.
> >>
> >> Seems that large performance regressions aren't of interest to this
> >> list :(

Or +200MB/s is enough for a lot of people :)

> > No sure which list you mean, but dm-devel is for dm, not md.  We're also
> > seeing similarly massive performance drops with md and ext3/xfs as
> > already reported on the list.  Someone tracked it down to writeback
> > changes as usual, but there it got stuck.
> 
> I'm still looking - running some basic tests on 4 filesystems over
> half a dozen recent kernels to see what has been happening.
> 
> I have a suspicion that there a multiple problems.
> In particular, XFS has a strange degradation which was papered over
> by commit c8a4051c3731b.
> I'm beginning to wonder if it was caused by commit 17bc6c30cf6bf
> but I haven't actually tested that yet.

What is really strange is that from all the tests I did the raw md perfs never
dropped. only a few MB of diff between kernel (~2%). This is maybe related to
the way upper FS write datas on the md layer.

I'll make the tests on raw disks to see if there is some troubles here also. I
can also test with other raid layers. Is there any tuning/debug I
can make for you ? I can also setup a remote access to this system if needed.

Thanks.
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* Re: [dm-devel] Re: Ext3 sequential read performance drop 2.6.29 -> 2.6.30,2.6.31,...
  2009-11-03 10:55       ` [dm-devel] " Laurent CORBES
@ 2009-11-04  7:16         ` Neil Brown
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Neil Brown @ 2009-11-04  7:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Laurent CORBES
  Cc: device-mapper development, akpm, linux-fsdevel, linux-raid,
	linux-kernel

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On Tuesday November 3, laurent.corbes@smartjog.com wrote:
> 
> What is really strange is that from all the tests I did the raw md perfs never
> dropped. only a few MB of diff between kernel (~2%). This is maybe related to
> the way upper FS write datas on the md layer.

That isn't all that strange.  It just says that the problem isn't with
MD, but is in some other part of Linux closer to the filesystem.

I did some tests with a range of kernels (all 'mainline', not the
'stable' versions that you used) and while I do see a noticeable dip
at 2.6.30 (except with ext3) is see improved performance in 2.6.31 and
even greater improvements with 2.6.32-rc5.

So while I confirm that 2.6.30 is worse than earlier kernels, and that
there was a general decline leading to that point, things have become
dramatically better.  So I don't think it is worth exploring very deeply.

All the numbers in the graph come from 'bonnie' over the various
file-systems on a 5-drive RAID6.

NeilBrown

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* Re: Re: Ext3 sequential read performance drop 2.6.29 -> 2.6.30,2.6.31,...
  2009-11-03 10:42     ` NeilBrown
  2009-11-03 10:55       ` [dm-devel] " Laurent CORBES
@ 2009-11-03 16:50       ` Andrew Morton
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Morton @ 2009-11-03 16:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: NeilBrown
  Cc: linux-fsdevel, linux-raid, device-mapper development,
	Laurent CORBES, linux-kernel

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:42:30 +1100 "NeilBrown" <neilb@suse.de> wrote:

> On Tue, November 3, 2009 9:06 pm, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 01:55:54PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >> On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:09:55 +0200
> >> Laurent CORBES <laurent.corbes@smartjog.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > While benchmarking some systems I discover a big sequential read
> >> performance
> >> > drop using ext3 on ~ big files. The drop seems to be introduced in
> >> 2.6.30. I'm
> >> > testing with 2.6.28.6 -> 2.6.29.6 -> 2.6.30.4 -> 2.6.31.3.
> >>
> >> Seems that large performance regressions aren't of interest to this
> >> list :(
> >
> > No sure which list you mean, but dm-devel is for dm, not md.

bah.

>  We're also
> > seeing similarly massive performance drops with md and ext3/xfs as
> > already reported on the list.  Someone tracked it down to writeback
> > changes as usual, but there it got stuck.
> 
> I'm still looking - running some basic tests on 4 filesystems over
> half a dozen recent kernels to see what has been happening.
> 
> I have a suspicion that there a multiple problems.
> In particular, XFS has a strange degradation which was papered over
> by commit c8a4051c3731b.
> I'm beginning to wonder if it was caused by commit 17bc6c30cf6bf
> but I haven't actually tested that yet.

I think Laurent's workload involves only reads, with no writes.

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