linux-fsdevel.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Leizhen (ThunderTown)" <thunder.leizhen@huaweicloud.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: "Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Neeraj Upadhyay <quic_neeraju@quicinc.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Zqiang <qiang.zhang1211@gmail.com>,
	rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Zhen Lei <thunder.leizhen@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] softirq: fix integer overflow in function show_stat()
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2023 08:59:13 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d6f00e09-757a-9935-bc22-c2a1d9c99c52@huaweicloud.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZL/pvjMMtlxvBSCm@casper.infradead.org>



On 2023/7/25 23:26, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 05:09:05PM +0800, Leizhen (ThunderTown) wrote:
>> On 2023/7/25 10:00, Leizhen (ThunderTown) wrote:
>>> On 2023/7/24 21:50, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 09:22:23PM +0800, thunder.leizhen@huaweicloud.com wrote:
>>>>> From: Zhen Lei <thunder.leizhen@huawei.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> The statistics function of softirq is supported by commit aa0ce5bbc2db
>>>>> ("softirq: introduce statistics for softirq") in 2009. At that time,
>>>>> 64-bit processors should not have many cores and would not face
>>>>> significant count overflow problems. Now it's common for a processor to
>>>>> have hundreds of cores. Assume that there are 100 cores and 10
>>>>> TIMER_SOFTIRQ are generated per second, then the 32-bit sum will be
>>>>> overflowed after 50 days.
>>>>
>>>> 50 days is long enough to take a snapshot.  You should always be using
>>>> difference between, not absolute values, and understand that they can
>>>> wrap.  We only tend to change the size of a counter when it can wrap
>>>> sufficiently quickly that we might miss a wrap (eg tens of seconds).
>>
>> Sometimes it can take a long time to view it again. For example, it is
>> possible to run a complete business test for hours or even days, and
>> then calculate the average.
> 
> I've been part of teams which have done such multi-hour tests.  That
> isn't how monitoring was performed.  Instead snapshots were taken every
> minute or even more frequently, because we wanted to know how these
> counters were fluctuating during the test -- were there time periods
> when the number of sortirqs spiked, or was it constant during the test?
> 
>>> Yes, I think patch 2/2 can be dropped. I reduced the number of soft
>>> interrupts generated in one second, and actually 100+ or 1000 is normal.
>>> But I think patch 1/2 is necessary. The sum of the output scattered values
>>> does not match the output sum. To solve this problem, we only need to
>>> adjust the type of a local variable.
>>
>> However, it is important to consider that when the local variable is changed
>> to u64, the output string becomes longer. It is not clear if the user-mode
>> program parses it only by u32.
> 
> There's no need for the numbers to add up.  They won't anyway, because
> summing them is racy , so they'll always be a little off.

Okay, thanks for the reply. I got it. I just summed it up temporarily to
prove that integer overflow is possible, and there's no actual requirement.

> 
> .
> 

-- 
Regards,
  Zhen Lei


  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-26  0:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-24 13:22 [PATCH 0/2] softirq: redefine the type of kernel_stat.softirqs[] as unsigned long thunder.leizhen
2023-07-24 13:22 ` [PATCH 1/2] softirq: fix integer overflow in function show_stat() thunder.leizhen
2023-07-24 13:50   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-25  2:00     ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2023-07-25  9:09       ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2023-07-25 15:26         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-26  0:59           ` Leizhen (ThunderTown) [this message]
2023-07-24 13:22 ` [PATCH 2/2] softirq: redefine the type of kernel_stat.softirqs[] as unsigned long thunder.leizhen

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=d6f00e09-757a-9935-bc22-c2a1d9c99c52@huaweicloud.com \
    --to=thunder.leizhen@huaweicloud.com \
    --cc=boqun.feng@gmail.com \
    --cc=frederic@kernel.org \
    --cc=jiangshanlai@gmail.com \
    --cc=joel@joelfernandes.org \
    --cc=josh@joshtriplett.org \
    --cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com \
    --cc=paulmck@kernel.org \
    --cc=qiang.zhang1211@gmail.com \
    --cc=quic_neeraju@quicinc.com \
    --cc=rcu@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
    --cc=thunder.leizhen@huawei.com \
    --cc=willy@infradead.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).