From: Zhang Yi <yi.zhang@huaweicloud.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, djwong@kernel.org,
hch@infradead.org, brauner@kernel.org, jack@suse.cz,
willy@infradead.org, yi.zhang@huawei.com,
chengzhihao1@huawei.com, yukuai3@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/6] iomap: some minor non-critical fixes and improvements when block size < folio size
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 14:32:06 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <de4ca3ad-0eb0-834c-2ab4-bd6008d385cb@huaweicloud.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zrw9lBma/kbKV8Ls@dread.disaster.area>
On 2024/8/14 13:16, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 11:57:03AM +0800, Zhang Yi wrote:
>> On 2024/8/14 10:47, Dave Chinner wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 10:14:01AM +0800, Zhang Yi wrote:
>>>> On 2024/8/14 9:49, Dave Chinner wrote:
>>>>> important to know if the changes made actually provided the benefit
>>>>> we expected them to make....
>>>>>
>>>>> i.e. this is the sort of table of results I'd like to see provided:
>>>>>
>>>>> platform base v1 v2
>>>>> x86 524708.0 569218.0 ????
>>>>> arm64 801965.0 871605.0 ????
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> platform base v1 v2
>>>> x86 524708.0 571315.0 569218.0
>>>> arm64 801965.0 876077.0 871605.0
>>>
>>> So avoiding the lock cycle in iomap_write_begin() (in patch 5) in
>>> this partial block write workload made no difference to performance
>>> at all, and removing a lock cycle in iomap_write_end provided all
>>> that gain?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>>
>>> Is this an overwrite workload or a file extending workload? The
>>> result implies that iomap_block_needs_zeroing() is returning false,
>>> hence it's an overwrite workload and it's reading partial blocks
>>> from disk. i.e. it is doing synchronous RMW cycles from the ramdisk
>>> and so still calling the uptodate bitmap update function rather than
>>> hitting the zeroing case and skipping it.
>>>
>>> Hence I'm just trying to understand what the test is doing because
>>> that tells me what the result should be...
>>>
>>
>> I forgot to mentioned that I test this on xfs with 1K block size, this
>> is a simple case of block size < folio size that I can direct use
>> UnixBench.
>
> OK. So it's an even more highly contrived microbenchmark than I
> thought. :/
>
> What is the impact on a 4kB block size filesystem running that same
> 1kB write test? That's going to be a far more common thing to occur
> in production machines for such small IO,
Yeah, I agree with you, the original test case I want to test is
buffered overwrite with bs=4K to the 4KB filesystem which has existing
larger size folios (> 4KB), this is one kind of common case of
block size < folio size after large folio is enabled. But I don't find
a benchmark tool can do this test easily, so I use the above tests
parameters to simulate this case.
> let's make sure that we
> haven't regressed that case in optimising for this one.
Sure, I will test this case either.
>
>> This test first do buffered append write with bs=1K,count=2000 in the
>> first round, and then do overwrite from the start position with the same
>> parameters repetitively in 30 seconds. All the write operations are
>> block size aligned, so iomap_write_begin() just continue after
>> iomap_adjust_read_range(), don't call iomap_set_range_uptodate() to set
>> range uptodate originally, hence there is no difference whether with or
>> without patch 5 in this test case.
>
> Ok, so you really need to come up with an equivalent test that
> exercises the paths that patch 5 modifies, because right now we have
> no real idea of what the impact of that change will be...
>
Sure.
Thanks,
Yi.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-14 6:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-12 12:11 [PATCH v2 0/6] iomap: some minor non-critical fixes and improvements when block size < folio size Zhang Yi
2024-08-12 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] iomap: correct the range of a partial dirty clear Zhang Yi
2024-08-12 16:33 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-08-13 2:14 ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-14 1:53 ` Dave Chinner
2024-08-12 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] iomap: support invalidating partial folios Zhang Yi
2024-08-12 16:55 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-08-12 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] iomap: advance the ifs allocation if we have more than one blocks per folio Zhang Yi
2024-08-12 12:47 ` yangerkun
2024-08-13 2:21 ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-14 5:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-14 7:08 ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-15 6:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-16 1:44 ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-17 4:27 ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-17 4:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-17 6:16 ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-12 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] iomap: correct the dirty length in page mkwrite Zhang Yi
2024-08-12 16:45 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-08-13 2:49 ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-14 5:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-14 7:49 ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-15 5:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-16 2:19 ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-17 4:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-17 6:43 ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-12 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] iomap: don't mark blocks uptodate after partial zeroing Zhang Yi
2024-08-12 16:49 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-08-13 3:01 ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-14 5:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-17 4:48 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-17 7:16 ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-12 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] iomap: reduce unnecessary state_lock when setting ifs uptodate and dirty bits Zhang Yi
2024-08-12 16:54 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-08-12 17:00 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-13 8:15 ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-14 1:49 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] iomap: some minor non-critical fixes and improvements when block size < folio size Dave Chinner
2024-08-14 2:14 ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-14 2:47 ` Dave Chinner
2024-08-14 3:57 ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-14 5:16 ` Dave Chinner
2024-08-14 6:32 ` Zhang Yi [this message]
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=de4ca3ad-0eb0-834c-2ab4-bd6008d385cb@huaweicloud.com \
--to=yi.zhang@huaweicloud.com \
--cc=brauner@kernel.org \
--cc=chengzhihao1@huawei.com \
--cc=david@fromorbit.com \
--cc=djwong@kernel.org \
--cc=hch@infradead.org \
--cc=jack@suse.cz \
--cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=willy@infradead.org \
--cc=yi.zhang@huawei.com \
--cc=yukuai3@huawei.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).