From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Lokesh Gidra <lokeshgidra@google.com>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Cc: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
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kaleshsingh@google.com, ngeoffray@google.com, jdduke@google.com,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] userfaultfd: UFFDIO_REMAP uABI
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 14:30:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <df0ccf08-1bbb-418c-0b3b-57c7288a9871@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+EESO5UPJrWpUKLg6m=1EmG6P9oXW6ADRkbRKjijVxj641qFQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 04.10.23 01:39, Lokesh Gidra wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 11:26 PM Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 2:21 PM Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 03, 2023 at 11:08:07PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> Sorry I have to ask: has this ever been discussed on the list? I don't see
>>>> any pointers. If not, then probably the number of people that know about the
>>>> history can be counted with my two hands and that shouldn't be the basis for
>>>> making decisions.
>>>
>>> For example:
>>>
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/1425575884-2574-21-git-send-email-aarcange@redhat.com/
Sorry, I had to process a family NMI the last couple of days.
>>
>> There was another submission in 2019:
>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/cover.1547251023.git.blake.caldwell@colorado.edu/
It would be good to link them in the cover letter and shortly explain
why that wasn't merged back then (if there was any reason).
>>
>> Though both times it did not generate much discussion. I don't have a
>> strong preference though MOVE sounds more generic to me TBH (it
>> specifies the operation rather than REMAP which hints on how that
>> operation is carried out). But again, I'm fine either way.
>
> That's a good point. IMHO, if in future we want to have the fallback
> implemented, then MOVE would be a more appropriate name than REMAP.
>
>> As for UFFDIO_MOVE_ZERO_COPY_ONLY vs UFFDIO_MOVE_MODE_ALLOW_COPY, I
>> find it weird that the default (the most efficient/desired) mode of
>> operation needs a flag. I would prefer to have no flag initially and
>> add UFFDIO_MOVE_MODE_ALLOW_COPY or whatever name is more appropriate
>> when/if we ever need it. Makes sense?
>
> Agreed!
I agree. One could have UFFDIO_MOVE that is best-effort and documented
like that, and a to-be-named future extension that always works but
might be more expensive.
Ideally we'd have an interface that does not expose and/or rely on such
low-level information and simply always works, but getting that would
mean that we'd have to implement the fallback immediately ... so I guess
we'll have to expose a best-effort interface first.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-06 12:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-23 1:31 [PATCH v2 0/3] userfaultfd remap option Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-23 1:31 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] userfaultfd: UFFDIO_REMAP: rmap preparation Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-28 16:23 ` Peter Xu
2023-09-28 20:03 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-10-02 14:42 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-02 15:23 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-02 17:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-03 17:56 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-23 1:31 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] userfaultfd: UFFDIO_REMAP uABI Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-27 10:06 ` potential new userfaultfd vs khugepaged conflict [was: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] userfaultfd: UFFDIO_REMAP uABI] Jann Horn
2023-09-27 17:12 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-28 15:29 ` Jann Horn
2023-09-27 12:47 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] userfaultfd: UFFDIO_REMAP uABI Jann Horn
2023-09-27 13:29 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-27 18:25 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-28 16:28 ` Peter Xu
2023-09-28 17:15 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-28 18:32 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-28 20:11 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-28 19:00 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-02 7:49 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-28 16:24 ` Peter Xu
2023-09-28 17:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-28 17:21 ` Peter Xu
2023-09-28 17:51 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-28 18:34 ` Peter Xu
2023-09-28 19:47 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-10-02 8:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-02 15:21 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-02 15:46 ` Lokesh Gidra
2023-10-02 15:55 ` Lokesh Gidra
2023-10-02 17:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-02 19:33 ` Lokesh Gidra
2023-10-03 20:04 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-10-03 20:21 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-03 21:08 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-03 21:20 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-03 22:26 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-10-03 23:39 ` Lokesh Gidra
2023-10-06 12:30 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2023-10-06 15:02 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-10-03 21:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-02 17:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-02 17:36 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-27 18:07 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-27 20:04 ` Jann Horn
2023-09-27 20:42 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-27 21:08 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-27 22:48 ` Jann Horn
2023-09-28 15:36 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-28 17:09 ` Peter Xu
2023-09-28 18:23 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-28 18:43 ` Peter Xu
2023-09-28 19:50 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-23 1:31 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] selftests/mm: add UFFDIO_REMAP ioctl test Suren Baghdasaryan
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