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From: Anna Schumaker <anna.schumaker@oracle.com>
To: lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Implementing the NFS v4.2 WRITE_SAME operation: VFS or NFS ioctl() ?
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 16:38:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f9ade3f0-6bfc-45da-a796-c22ceaeb4722@oracle.com> (raw)

I've seen a few requests for implementing the NFS v4.2 WRITE_SAME [1] operation over the last few months [2][3] to accelerate writing patterns of data on the server, so it's been in the back of my mind for a future project. I'll need to write some code somewhere so NFS & NFSD can handle this request. I could keep any implementation internal to NFS / NFSD, but I'd like to find out if local filesystems would find this sort of feature useful and if I should put it in the VFS instead.

I was thinking I could keep it simple, and model a function call based on write(3) / pwrite(3) to write some pattern N times starting at either the file's current offset or at a user-provide offset. Something like:
    write_pattern(int filedes, const void *pattern, size_t nbytes, size_t count);
    pwrite_pattern(int filedes, const void *pattern, size_t nbytes, size_t count, offset_t offset);

I could then construct a WRITE_SAME call in the NFS client using this information. This seems "good enough" to me for what people have asked for, at least as a client-side interface. It wouldn't really help the server, which would still need to do several writes in a loop to be spec-compliant with writing the pattern to an offset inside the "application data block" [4] structure.

But maybe I'm simplifying this too much, and others would find the additional application data block fields useful? Or should I keep it all inside NFS, and call it with an ioctl instead of putting it into the VFS?

Thoughts?
Anna

[1]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7862#section-15.12
[2]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-nfs/CAAvCNcByQhbxh9aq_z7GfHx+_=S8zVcr9-04zzdRVLpLbhxxSg@mail.gmail.com/
[3]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-nfs/CALWcw=Gg33HWRLCrj9QLXMPME=pnuZx_tE4+Pw8gwutQM4M=vw@mail.gmail.com/
[4]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7862#section-8.1

             reply	other threads:[~2025-01-14 21:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-14 21:38 Anna Schumaker [this message]
2025-01-14 23:14 ` [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Implementing the NFS v4.2 WRITE_SAME operation: VFS or NFS ioctl() ? Dave Chinner
2025-01-16  5:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-16 13:37     ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-01-16 13:59       ` Chuck Lever
2025-01-16 15:36         ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-01-16 15:45           ` Chuck Lever
2025-01-16 17:30             ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-01-16 22:11               ` [Lsf-pc] " Martin K. Petersen
2025-01-16 21:54             ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-01-15  2:10 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-01-15 14:24 ` Jeff Layton
2025-01-15 15:06 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-01-15 15:31   ` Chuck Lever
2025-01-15 16:19     ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-01-15 18:20       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-01-15 18:43       ` Chuck Lever
2025-01-16  5:40 ` Christoph Hellwig

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