From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
brauner@kernel.org, shuah@kernel.org, aarcange@redhat.com,
lokeshgidra@google.com, hughd@google.com, mhocko@suse.com,
axelrasmussen@google.com, rppt@kernel.org, willy@infradead.org,
Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, zhangpeng362@huawei.com,
bgeffon@google.com, kaleshsingh@google.com, ngeoffray@google.com,
jdduke@google.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] userfaultfd: UFFDIO_REMAP uABI
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 10:00:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fc27ce41-bc97-91a7-deb6-67538689021c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZRXHK3hbdjfQvCCp@x1n>
On 28.09.23 20:34, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 07:51:18PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 28.09.23 19:21, Peter Xu wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 07:05:40PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> As described as reply to v1, without fork() and KSM, the PAE bit should
>>>> stick around. If that's not the case, we should investigate why.
>>>>
>>>> If we ever support the post-fork case (which the comment above remap_pages()
>>>> excludes) we'll need good motivation why we'd want to make this
>>>> overly-complicated feature even more complicated.
>>>
>>> The problem is DONTFORK is only a suggestion, but not yet restricted. If
>>> someone reaches on top of some !PAE page on src it'll never gonna proceed
>>> and keep failing, iiuc.
>>
>> Yes. It won't work if you fork() and not use DONTFORK on the src VMA. We
>> should document that as a limitation.
>>
>> For example, you could return an error to the user that can just call
>> UFFDIO_COPY. (or to the UFFDIO_COPY from inside uffd code, but that's
>> probably ugly as well).
>
> We could indeed provide some special errno perhaps upon the PAE check, then
> document it explicitly in the man page and suggest resolutions (like
> DONTFORK) when user hit it.
>
Maybe it might be reasonable to consider an operation that moves the
page, even if it might do an internal copy. UFFDIO_MOVE might be a
better name for something like that.
In case we cannot simply remap the page, the fallback sequence (from the
cover letter) would be triggered.
1) UFFDIO_COPY
2) MADV_DONTNEED
So we would just handle the operation internally without a fallback.
The recommendation to the user to make the overall operation as fast as
possible would be to not use KSM, to avoid fork(), or to use
MADV_DONTFORK when fork() must be used.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-02 8:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-23 1:31 [PATCH v2 0/3] userfaultfd remap option Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-23 1:31 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] userfaultfd: UFFDIO_REMAP: rmap preparation Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-28 16:23 ` Peter Xu
2023-09-28 20:03 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-10-02 14:42 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-02 15:23 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-02 17:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-03 17:56 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-23 1:31 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] userfaultfd: UFFDIO_REMAP uABI Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-27 10:06 ` potential new userfaultfd vs khugepaged conflict [was: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] userfaultfd: UFFDIO_REMAP uABI] Jann Horn
2023-09-27 17:12 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-28 15:29 ` Jann Horn
2023-09-27 12:47 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] userfaultfd: UFFDIO_REMAP uABI Jann Horn
2023-09-27 13:29 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-27 18:25 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-28 16:28 ` Peter Xu
2023-09-28 17:15 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-28 18:32 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-28 20:11 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-28 19:00 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-02 7:49 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-28 16:24 ` Peter Xu
2023-09-28 17:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-28 17:21 ` Peter Xu
2023-09-28 17:51 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-28 18:34 ` Peter Xu
2023-09-28 19:47 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-10-02 8:00 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2023-10-02 15:21 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-02 15:46 ` Lokesh Gidra
2023-10-02 15:55 ` Lokesh Gidra
2023-10-02 17:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-02 19:33 ` Lokesh Gidra
2023-10-03 20:04 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-10-03 20:21 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-03 21:08 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-03 21:20 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-03 22:26 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-10-03 23:39 ` Lokesh Gidra
2023-10-06 12:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-06 15:02 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-10-03 21:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-02 17:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-02 17:36 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-27 18:07 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-27 20:04 ` Jann Horn
2023-09-27 20:42 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-27 21:08 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-27 22:48 ` Jann Horn
2023-09-28 15:36 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-28 17:09 ` Peter Xu
2023-09-28 18:23 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-28 18:43 ` Peter Xu
2023-09-28 19:50 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-23 1:31 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] selftests/mm: add UFFDIO_REMAP ioctl test Suren Baghdasaryan
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