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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	joaodias@google.com, surenb@google.com, cgoldswo@codeaurora.org,
	willy@infradead.org, vbabka@suse.cz,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm: disable LRU pagevec during the migration temporarily
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 09:07:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fc76eca3-f986-3980-065f-64c8dc92530a@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YD/wOq3lf9I5HK85@google.com>

On 03.03.21 21:23, Minchan Kim wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 01:49:36PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
>> On Tue 02-03-21 13:09:48, Minchan Kim wrote:
>>> LRU pagevec holds refcount of pages until the pagevec are drained.
>>> It could prevent migration since the refcount of the page is greater
>>> than the expection in migration logic. To mitigate the issue,
>>> callers of migrate_pages drains LRU pagevec via migrate_prep or
>>> lru_add_drain_all before migrate_pages call.
>>>
>>> However, it's not enough because pages coming into pagevec after the
>>> draining call still could stay at the pagevec so it could keep
>>> preventing page migration. Since some callers of migrate_pages have
>>> retrial logic with LRU draining, the page would migrate at next trail
>>> but it is still fragile in that it doesn't close the fundamental race
>>> between upcoming LRU pages into pagvec and migration so the migration
>>> failure could cause contiguous memory allocation failure in the end.
>>>
>>> To close the race, this patch disables lru caches(i.e, pagevec)
>>> during ongoing migration until migrate is done.
>>>
>>> Since it's really hard to reproduce, I measured how many times
>>> migrate_pages retried with force mode below debug code.
>>>
>>> int migrate_pages(struct list_head *from, new_page_t get_new_page,
>>> 			..
>>> 			..
>>>
>>> if (rc && reason == MR_CONTIG_RANGE && pass > 2) {
>>>         printk(KERN_ERR, "pfn 0x%lx reason %d\n", page_to_pfn(page), rc);
>>>         dump_page(page, "fail to migrate");
>>> }
>>>
>>> The test was repeating android apps launching with cma allocation
>>> in background every five seconds. Total cma allocation count was
>>> about 500 during the testing. With this patch, the dump_page count
>>> was reduced from 400 to 30.
>>
>> Have you seen any improvement on the CMA allocation success rate?
> 
> Unfortunately, the cma alloc failure rate with reasonable margin
> of error is really hard to reproduce under real workload.
> That's why I measured the soft metric instead of direct cma fail
> under real workload(I don't want to make some adhoc artificial
> benchmark and keep tunes system knobs until it could show
> extremly exaggerated result to convice patch effect).
> 
> Please say if you belive this work is pointless unless there is
> stable data under reproducible scenario. I am happy to drop it.

Do you have *some* application that triggers such a high retry count?

I'd love to run it along with virtio-mem and report the actual 
allocation success rate / necessary retries. That could give an 
indication of how helpful your work would be.

Anything that improves the reliability of alloc_contig_range() is of 
high interest to me. If it doesn't increase the reliability but merely 
does some internal improvements (less retries), it might still be 
valuable, but not that important.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-04  8:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-02 21:09 [PATCH 1/2] mm: disable LRU pagevec during the migration temporarily Minchan Kim
2021-03-02 21:09 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: fs: Invalidate BH LRU during page migration Minchan Kim
2021-03-03 12:49 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: disable LRU pagevec during the migration temporarily Michal Hocko
2021-03-03 20:23   ` Minchan Kim
2021-03-04  8:07     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2021-03-04 15:55       ` Minchan Kim
2021-03-05 16:06     ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-05 20:26       ` Minchan Kim

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