From: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/21] fs: iomap: Atomic write support
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 13:55:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fc98c53e-8043-807a-6dfd-37be726832eb@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZRuXd/iG1kyeFQDh@dread.disaster.area>
On 03/10/2023 05:24, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 10:27:21AM +0000, John Garry wrote:
>> Add flag IOMAP_ATOMIC_WRITE to indicate to the FS that an atomic write
>> bio is being created and all the rules there need to be followed.
>>
>> It is the task of the FS iomap iter callbacks to ensure that the mapping
>> created adheres to those rules, like size is power-of-2, is at a
>> naturally-aligned offset, etc.
>
> The mapping being returned by the filesystem can span a much greater
> range than the actual IO needs - the iomap itself is not guaranteed
> to be aligned to anything in particular, but the IO location within
> that map can still conform to atomic IO constraints. See how
> iomap_sector() calculates the actual LBA address of the IO from
> the iomap and the current file position the IO is being done at.
I see, but I was working on the basis that the filesystem produces an
iomap which itself conforms to all the rules. And that is because the
atomic write unit min and max for the file depend on the extent
alignment, which only the filesystem is aware of.
>
> hence I think saying "the filesysetm should make sure all IO
> alignment adheres to atomic IO rules is probably wrong. The iomap
> layer doesn't care what the filesystem does, all it cares about is
> whether the IO can be done given the extent map that was returned to
> it.
>
> Indeed, iomap_dio_bio_iter() is doing all these alignment checks for
> normal DIO reads and writes which must be logical block sized
> aligned. i.e. this check:
>
> if ((pos | length) & (bdev_logical_block_size(iomap->bdev) - 1) ||
> !bdev_iter_is_aligned(iomap->bdev, dio->submit.iter))
> return -EINVAL;
>
> Hence I think that atomic IO units, which are similarly defined by
> the bdev, should be checked at the iomap layer, too. e.g, by
> following up with:
>
> if ((dio->iocb->ki_flags & IOCB_ATOMIC) &&
> ((pos | length) & (bdev_atomic_unit_min(iomap->bdev) - 1) ||
> !bdev_iter_is_atomic_aligned(iomap->bdev, dio->submit.iter))
> return -EINVAL;
Seems ok for at least enforcing alignment for the bdev. Again,
filesystem extent alignment is my concern.
>
> At this point, filesystems don't really need to know anything about
> atomic IO - if they've allocated a large contiguous extent (e.g. via
> fallocate()), then RWF_ATOMIC will just work for the cases where the
> block device supports it...
>
> This then means that stuff like XFS extent size hints only need to
> check when the hint is set that it is aligned to the underlying
> device atomic IO constraints. Then when it sees the IOMAP_ATOMIC
> modifier, it can fail allocation if it can't get extent size hint
> aligned allocation.
I am not sure what you mean by allocation in this context. I assume that
fallocate allocates the extents, but they remain unwritten. So if we
then dd into that file to zero it or init it any other way, they become
written and the extent size hint or bdev atomic write constraints would
be just ignored then.
BTW, if you remember, we did propose an XFS fallocate extension for
extent alignment in the initial RFC, but decided to drop it.
>
> IOWs, I'm starting to think this doesn't need any change to the
> on-disk format for XFS - it can be driven entirely through two
> dynamic mechanisms:
>
> 1. (IOMAP_WRITE | IOMAP_ATOMIC) requests from the direct IO layer
> which causes mapping/allocation to fail if it can't allocate (or
> map) atomic IO compatible extents for the IO.
>
> 2. FALLOC_FL_ATOMIC preallocation flag modifier to tell fallocate()
> to force alignment of all preallocated extents to atomic IO
> constraints.
Would that be a sticky flag? What stops the extents mutating before the
atomic write?
>
> This doesn't require extent size hints at all. The filesystem can
> query the bdev at mount time, store the min/max atomic write sizes,
> and then use them for all requests that have _ATOMIC modifiers set
> on them.
A drawback is that the storage device may support atomic write unit max
much bigger than the user requires and cause inefficient alignment, e.g.
bdev atomic write unit max = 1M, and we only ever want 8KB atomic
writes. But you are mentioning extent size hints can be paid attention
to, below.
>
> With iomap doing the same "get the atomic constraints from the bdev"
> style lookups for per-IO file offset and size checking, I don't
> think we actually need extent size hints or an on-disk flag to force
> extent size hint alignment.
>
> That doesn't mean extent size hints can't be used - it just means
> that extent size hints have to be constrained to being aligned to
> atomic IOs (e.g. extent size hint must be an integer multiple of the
> max atomic IO size).
Yeah, well I think that we already agreed something like this.
> This then acts as a modifier for _ATOMIC
> context allocations, much like it is a modifier for normal
> allocations now.
>
>> In iomap_dio_bio_iter(), ensure that for a non-dsync iocb that the mapping
>> is not dirty nor unmapped.
>>
>> A write should only produce a single bio, so error when it doesn't.
>
> I comment on both these things below.
>
>>
>> Signed-off-by: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
>> ---
>> fs/iomap/direct-io.c | 26 ++++++++++++++++++++++++--
>> fs/iomap/trace.h | 3 ++-
>> include/linux/iomap.h | 1 +
>> 3 files changed, 27 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/fs/iomap/direct-io.c b/fs/iomap/direct-io.c
>> index bcd3f8cf5ea4..6ef25e26f1a1 100644
>> --- a/fs/iomap/direct-io.c
>> +++ b/fs/iomap/direct-io.c
>> @@ -275,10 +275,11 @@ static inline blk_opf_t iomap_dio_bio_opflags(struct iomap_dio *dio,
>> static loff_t iomap_dio_bio_iter(const struct iomap_iter *iter,
>> struct iomap_dio *dio)
>> {
>> + bool atomic_write = iter->flags & IOMAP_ATOMIC_WRITE;
>> const struct iomap *iomap = &iter->iomap;
>> struct inode *inode = iter->inode;
>> unsigned int fs_block_size = i_blocksize(inode), pad;
>> - loff_t length = iomap_length(iter);
>> + const loff_t length = iomap_length(iter);
>> loff_t pos = iter->pos;
>> blk_opf_t bio_opf;
>> struct bio *bio;
>> @@ -292,6 +293,13 @@ static loff_t iomap_dio_bio_iter(const struct iomap_iter *iter,
>> !bdev_iter_is_aligned(iomap->bdev, dio->submit.iter))
>> return -EINVAL;
>>
>> + if (atomic_write && !iocb_is_dsync(dio->iocb)) {
>> + if (iomap->flags & IOMAP_F_DIRTY)
>> + return -EIO;
>> + if (iomap->type != IOMAP_MAPPED)
>> + return -EIO;
>> + }
>
> How do we get here without space having been allocated for the
> write?
I don't think that we can, but we are checking that the space is also
written.
>
> Perhaps what this is trying to do is make RWF_ATOMIC only be valid
> into written space?
Yes, and we now detail this in the man pages.
> I mean, this will fail with preallocated space
> (IOMAP_UNWRITTEN) even though we still have exactly the RWF_ATOMIC
> all-or-nothing behaviour guaranteed after a crash because of journal
> recovery behaviour. i.e. if the unwritten conversion gets written to
> the journal, the data will be there. If it isn't written to the
> journal, then the space remains unwritten and there's no data across
> that entire range....
>
> So I'm not really sure that either of these checks are valid or why
> they are actually needed....
I think that the idea is that the space is already written and the
metadata for the space is persisted or going to be. Darrick guided me on
this, so hopefully can comment more.
>
>> +
>> if (iomap->type == IOMAP_UNWRITTEN) {
>> dio->flags |= IOMAP_DIO_UNWRITTEN;
>> need_zeroout = true;
>> @@ -381,6 +389,9 @@ static loff_t iomap_dio_bio_iter(const struct iomap_iter *iter,
>> GFP_KERNEL);
>> bio->bi_iter.bi_sector = iomap_sector(iomap, pos);
>> bio->bi_ioprio = dio->iocb->ki_ioprio;
>> + if (atomic_write)
>> + bio->bi_opf |= REQ_ATOMIC;
>> +
>> bio->bi_private = dio;
>> bio->bi_end_io = iomap_dio_bio_end_io;
>>
>> @@ -397,6 +408,12 @@ static loff_t iomap_dio_bio_iter(const struct iomap_iter *iter,
>> }
>>
>> n = bio->bi_iter.bi_size;
>> + if (atomic_write && n != length) {
>> + /* This bio should have covered the complete length */
>> + ret = -EINVAL;
>> + bio_put(bio);
>> + goto out;
>
> Why? The actual bio can be any length that meets the aligned
> criteria between min and max, yes?
The write also needs to be a power-of-2 in length. atomic write min and
max will always be a power-of-2.
> So it's valid to split a
> RWF_ATOMIC write request up into multiple min unit sized bios, is it
> not?
It is not. In the RFC we sent in May there was a scheme to break up the
atomic write into multiple userspace block-sized bios, but that is no
longer supported.
Now an atomic write only produces a single bio. So userspace may do a
16KB atomic write, for example, and we only ever issue that as a single
16KB operation to the storage device.
> I mean, that's the whole point of the min/max unit setup, isn't
> it?
The point of min/max is to ensure that userspace executes an atomic
write which is guaranteed to be only ever issued as a single write to
the storage device. In addition, the length and position for that write
conforms to the storage device atomic write constraints.
> That the max sized write only guarantees that it will tear at
> min unit boundaries, not within those min unit boundaries?
There is no tearing. As mentioned, the RFC in May did support some
splitting but we decided to drop it.
> If
> I've understood this correctly, then why does this "single bio for
> large atomic write" constraint need to exist?
atomic write means that a write will never we torn.
>
>
>> + }
>> if (dio->flags & IOMAP_DIO_WRITE) {
>> task_io_account_write(n);
>> } else {
>> @@ -554,6 +571,8 @@ __iomap_dio_rw(struct kiocb *iocb, struct iov_iter *iter,
>> struct blk_plug plug;
>> struct iomap_dio *dio;
>> loff_t ret = 0;
>> + bool is_read = iov_iter_rw(iter) == READ;
>> + bool atomic_write = (iocb->ki_flags & IOCB_ATOMIC) && !is_read;
>
> This does not need to be done here, because....
>
>>
>> trace_iomap_dio_rw_begin(iocb, iter, dio_flags, done_before);
>>
>> @@ -579,7 +598,7 @@ __iomap_dio_rw(struct kiocb *iocb, struct iov_iter *iter,
>> if (iocb->ki_flags & IOCB_NOWAIT)
>> iomi.flags |= IOMAP_NOWAIT;
>>
>> - if (iov_iter_rw(iter) == READ) {
>> + if (is_read) {
>> /* reads can always complete inline */
>> dio->flags |= IOMAP_DIO_INLINE_COMP;
>>
>> @@ -605,6 +624,9 @@ __iomap_dio_rw(struct kiocb *iocb, struct iov_iter *iter,
>> if (iocb->ki_flags & IOCB_DIO_CALLER_COMP)
>> dio->flags |= IOMAP_DIO_CALLER_COMP;
>>
>> + if (atomic_write)
>> + iomi.flags |= IOMAP_ATOMIC_WRITE;
>
> .... it is only checked once in the write path, so
ok
>
> if (iocb->ki_flags & IOCB_ATOMIC)
> iomi.flags |= IOMAP_ATOMIC;
>
>> +
>> if (dio_flags & IOMAP_DIO_OVERWRITE_ONLY) {
>> ret = -EAGAIN;
>> if (iomi.pos >= dio->i_size ||
>> diff --git a/fs/iomap/trace.h b/fs/iomap/trace.h
>> index c16fd55f5595..f9932733c180 100644
>> --- a/fs/iomap/trace.h
>> +++ b/fs/iomap/trace.h
>> @@ -98,7 +98,8 @@ DEFINE_RANGE_EVENT(iomap_dio_rw_queued);
>> { IOMAP_REPORT, "REPORT" }, \
>> { IOMAP_FAULT, "FAULT" }, \
>> { IOMAP_DIRECT, "DIRECT" }, \
>> - { IOMAP_NOWAIT, "NOWAIT" }
>> + { IOMAP_NOWAIT, "NOWAIT" }, \
>> + { IOMAP_ATOMIC_WRITE, "ATOMIC" }
>
> We already have an IOMAP_WRITE flag, so IOMAP_ATOMIC is the modifier
> for the write IO behaviour (like NOWAIT), not a replacement write
> flag.
The name IOMAP_ATOMIC_WRITE is the issue then. The iomap trace still
just has "ATOMIC" as the trace modifier.
Thanks,
John
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2023-09-29 10:27 [PATCH 00/21] block atomic writes John Garry
2023-09-29 10:27 ` [PATCH 01/21] block: Add atomic write operations to request_queue limits John Garry
2023-10-03 16:40 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-04 3:00 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-10-04 17:28 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-04 18:26 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-10-04 21:00 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-05 8:22 ` John Garry
2023-11-09 15:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-09 17:01 ` John Garry
2023-11-10 6:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-10 9:04 ` John Garry
2023-09-29 10:27 ` [PATCH 02/21] block: Limit atomic writes according to bio and queue limits John Garry
2023-11-09 15:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-09 17:41 ` John Garry
2023-12-04 3:19 ` Ming Lei
2023-12-04 3:55 ` Ming Lei
2023-12-04 9:35 ` John Garry
2023-09-29 10:27 ` [PATCH 03/21] fs/bdev: Add atomic write support info to statx John Garry
2023-09-29 22:49 ` Eric Biggers
2023-10-01 13:23 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 9:51 ` John Garry
2023-10-02 18:39 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-03 0:28 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-11-09 15:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-03 1:51 ` Dave Chinner
2023-10-03 2:57 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-10-03 7:23 ` John Garry
2023-10-03 15:46 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-10-04 14:19 ` John Garry
2023-09-29 10:27 ` [PATCH 04/21] fs: Add RWF_ATOMIC and IOCB_ATOMIC flags for atomic write support John Garry
2023-10-06 18:15 ` Jeremy Bongio
2023-10-09 22:02 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-29 10:27 ` [PATCH 05/21] block: Add REQ_ATOMIC flag John Garry
2023-09-29 10:27 ` [PATCH 06/21] block: Pass blk_queue_get_max_sectors() a request pointer John Garry
2023-09-29 10:27 ` [PATCH 07/21] block: Limit atomic write IO size according to atomic_write_max_sectors John Garry
2023-09-29 10:27 ` [PATCH 08/21] block: Error an attempt to split an atomic write bio John Garry
2023-09-29 10:27 ` [PATCH 09/21] block: Add checks to merging of atomic writes John Garry
2023-09-30 13:40 ` kernel test robot
2023-10-02 22:50 ` Nathan Chancellor
2023-10-04 11:40 ` John Garry
2023-09-29 10:27 ` [PATCH 10/21] block: Add fops atomic write support John Garry
2023-09-29 17:51 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 10:10 ` John Garry
2023-10-02 19:12 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-03 0:48 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-10-03 16:55 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-04 2:53 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-10-04 17:22 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-04 18:17 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-10-05 17:10 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-05 22:36 ` Dave Chinner
2023-10-05 22:58 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-06 4:31 ` Dave Chinner
2023-10-06 17:22 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-07 1:21 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-10-03 8:37 ` John Garry
2023-10-03 16:45 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-04 9:14 ` John Garry
2023-10-04 17:34 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-04 21:59 ` Dave Chinner
2023-12-04 2:30 ` Ming Lei
2023-12-04 9:27 ` John Garry
2023-12-04 12:18 ` Ming Lei
2023-12-04 13:13 ` John Garry
2023-12-05 1:45 ` Ming Lei
2023-12-05 10:49 ` John Garry
2023-09-29 10:27 ` [PATCH 11/21] fs: xfs: Don't use low-space allocator for alignment > 1 John Garry
2023-10-03 1:16 ` Dave Chinner
2023-10-03 3:00 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-10-03 4:34 ` Dave Chinner
2023-10-03 10:22 ` John Garry
2023-09-29 10:27 ` [PATCH 12/21] fs: xfs: Introduce FORCEALIGN inode flag John Garry
2023-11-09 15:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-29 10:27 ` [PATCH 13/21] fs: xfs: Make file data allocations observe the 'forcealign' flag John Garry
2023-10-03 1:42 ` Dave Chinner
2023-10-03 10:13 ` John Garry
2023-09-29 10:27 ` [PATCH 14/21] fs: xfs: Enable file data forcealign feature John Garry
2023-09-29 10:27 ` [PATCH 15/21] fs: xfs: Support atomic write for statx John Garry
2023-10-03 3:32 ` Dave Chinner
2023-10-03 10:56 ` John Garry
2023-10-03 16:10 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-09-29 10:27 ` [PATCH 16/21] fs: iomap: Atomic write support John Garry
2023-10-03 4:24 ` Dave Chinner
2023-10-03 12:55 ` John Garry [this message]
2023-10-03 16:47 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-10-04 1:16 ` Dave Chinner
2023-10-24 12:59 ` John Garry
2023-09-29 10:27 ` [PATCH 17/21] fs: xfs: iomap atomic " John Garry
2023-11-09 15:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-10 10:42 ` John Garry
2023-11-28 8:56 ` John Garry
2023-11-28 13:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-28 17:42 ` John Garry
2023-11-29 2:45 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-12-04 13:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-04 15:19 ` John Garry
2023-12-04 15:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-04 18:06 ` John Garry
2023-12-05 4:55 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-12-05 11:09 ` John Garry
2023-12-05 13:59 ` Ming Lei
2023-09-29 10:27 ` [PATCH 18/21] scsi: sd: Support reading atomic properties from block limits VPD John Garry
2023-09-29 17:54 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 11:27 ` John Garry
2023-10-06 17:52 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-06 23:48 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-09-29 10:27 ` [PATCH 19/21] scsi: sd: Add WRITE_ATOMIC_16 support John Garry
2023-09-29 17:59 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 11:36 ` John Garry
2023-10-02 19:21 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-29 10:27 ` [PATCH 20/21] scsi: scsi_debug: Atomic write support John Garry
2023-09-29 10:27 ` [PATCH 21/21] nvme: Support atomic writes John Garry
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2023-10-04 11:39 ` Pankaj Raghav
2023-10-05 10:24 ` John Garry
2023-10-05 13:32 ` Pankaj Raghav
2023-10-05 15:05 ` John Garry
2023-11-09 15:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-09 15:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
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2023-11-09 19:08 ` John Garry
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2023-11-10 8:44 ` John Garry
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