From: Laurent Vivier <laurent@vivier.eu>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>
Cc: kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, dima@arista.com,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/1] ns: introduce binfmt_misc namespace
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 13:28:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fcebfa0c-b389-5c4d-19b8-2f08b487ec25@vivier.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG48ez3HnkRM6bUZMNjuTy5DgujgamEKhZOEWDfCjqW7fTJSzQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 01/11/2018 04:51, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:59 AM James Bottomley
> <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 11:52 +0200, Laurent Vivier wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Any comment on this last version?
>>>
>>> Any chance to be merged?
>>
>> I've got a use case for this: I went to one of the Graphene talks in
>> Edinburgh and it struck me that we seem to keep reinventing the type of
>> sandboxing that qemu-user already does. However if you want to do an
>> x86 on x86 sandbox, you can't currently use the binfmt_misc mechanism
>> because that has you running *every* binary on the system emulated.
>> Doing it per user namespace fixes this problem and allows us to at
>> least cut down on all the pointless duplication.
>
> Waaaaaait. What? qemu-user does not do "sandboxing". qemu-user makes
> your code slower and *LESS* secure. As far as I know, qemu-user is
> only intended for purposes like development and testing.
>
I think the idea here is not to run qemu, but to use an interpreter
(something like gVisor) into a container to control the binaries
execution inside the container without using this interpreter on the
host itself (container and host shares the same binfmt_misc magic/mask).
Thanks,
Laurent
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-11-01 21:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-10 16:14 [PATCH v6 0/1] ns: introduce binfmt_misc namespace Laurent Vivier
2018-10-10 16:14 ` [PATCH v6 1/1] ns: add binfmt_misc to the user namespace Laurent Vivier
2018-10-16 10:13 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2018-10-16 10:53 ` Laurent Vivier
2018-10-16 16:22 ` Andrei Vagin
2018-10-24 17:15 ` Laurent Vivier
2018-10-30 8:51 ` Laurent Vivier
2018-11-06 19:40 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-16 9:52 ` [PATCH v6 0/1] ns: introduce binfmt_misc namespace Laurent Vivier
2018-11-01 2:59 ` James Bottomley
2018-11-01 3:51 ` Jann Horn
2018-11-01 12:28 ` Laurent Vivier [this message]
2018-11-01 14:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-11-29 13:05 ` Laurent Vivier
2018-12-29 15:41 ` Laurent Vivier
2018-11-01 14:10 ` James Bottomley
2018-11-01 14:44 ` Jann Horn
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