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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	serue@us.ibm.com, viro@ftp.linux.org.uk, linuxram@us.ibm.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	containers@lists.osdl.org
Subject: Re: [patch 7/8] allow unprivileged mounts
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 15:00:16 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m17is5igtb.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0704211905230.9989@yvahk01.tjqt.qr> (Jan Engelhardt's message of "Sat, 21 Apr 2007 19:10:55 +0200 (MEST)")

Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de> writes:

> On Apr 21 2007 10:57, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>
>>> tmpfs!
>>
>>tmpfs is a possible problem because it can consume lots of ram/swap. 
>>Which is why it has limits on the amount of space it can consume. 
>
> Users can gobble up all RAM and swap already today. (Unless they are
> confined into an rlimit, which, in most systems, is not the case.)
> And in case /dev/shm exists, they can already fill it without running
> into an rlimit early.

There are systems that care about rlimits and there is strong intersection
between caring about rlimits and user mounts.  Although I do agree that
it looks like we have gotten lazy with the default mount options for
/dev/shm.

Going a little farther any filesystem that is safe to put on a usb
stick and mount automatically should ultimately be safe for unprivileged
mounts as well.

So it looks to me like ultimately most of the common filesystems will actually
be safe for non-privileged mounting.

Regardless this looks like an important discussion as soon as we have the
glitches out of the non-privileged mount code.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-21 21:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-20 10:25 [patch 0/8] mount ownership and unprivileged mount syscall (v4) Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-20 10:25 ` [patch 1/8] add user mounts to the kernel Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-21  7:55   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21  8:06     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-21 13:14   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22  7:02     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-22  7:43       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22  8:05         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-22 16:22         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-20 10:25 ` [patch 2/8] allow unprivileged umount Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-21  7:55   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21  8:01     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-21  8:09     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-21  8:36       ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 12:53         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22  6:47           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-22  7:09             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22  7:32               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-21 13:29   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22  7:05     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-20 10:25 ` [patch 3/8] account user mounts Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-21  7:55   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 13:37   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22  7:10     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-22  7:49       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22  8:08         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-20 10:25 ` [patch 4/8] propagate error values from clone_mnt Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-21 13:40   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20 10:25 ` [patch 5/8] allow unprivileged bind mounts Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-21 14:00   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22  7:19     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-20 10:25 ` [patch 6/8] put declaration of put_filesystem() in fs.h Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-20 10:25 ` [patch 7/8] allow unprivileged mounts Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-21  7:55   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21  8:13     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-21  8:23       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-21 14:10     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-21 15:43       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-21 16:57         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-21 17:10           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-21 21:00             ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2007-04-22  8:19               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-21 22:06     ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-21 21:33       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22  0:46     ` Shaya Potter
2007-04-20 10:25 ` [patch 8/8] allow unprivileged fuse mounts Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-21  7:55   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21  8:16     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-21 14:18   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22  7:22     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-20 12:42 ` [patch 0/8] mount ownership and unprivileged mount syscall (v4) Serge E. Hallyn
2007-04-20 16:33   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-21  8:30 ` Majkls
2007-04-21  8:35   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-25  0:04 ` Karel Zak
2007-04-25  1:04   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-25  7:18   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-25  9:23     ` Karel Zak
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-04-04 18:30 [patch 0/8] unprivileged mount syscall Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-04 18:30 ` [patch 7/8] allow unprivileged mounts Miklos Szeredi

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