From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>,
Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, neilb@suse.de, dm-devel@redhat.com,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org,
"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Lsf-pc] [LSF/MM TOPIC] a few storage topics
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 14:19:33 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <x49lioy9qgq.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120123185650.GF30782@redhat.com> (Andrea Arcangeli's message of "Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:56:50 +0100")
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> writes:
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 01:28:08PM -0500, Jeff Moyer wrote:
>> Are you speaking from experience? If so, what workloads were negatively
>> affected by merging, and how did you measure that?
>
> Any workload where two processes compete for accessing the same disk
> and one process writes big requests (usually async writes), the other
> small (usually sync reads). The one with the small 4k requests
> (usually reads) gets some artificial latency if the big requests are
> 512k. Vivek did a recent measurement to verify the issue is still
> there, and it's basically an hardware issue. Software can't do much
> other than possibly reducing the max request size when we notice such
> an I/O pattern coming in cfq. I did old measurements that's how I knew
> it, but they were so ancient they're worthless by now, this is why
> Vivek had to repeat it to verify before we could assume it still
> existed on recent hardware.
>
> These days with cgroups it may be a bit more relevant as max write
> bandwidth may be secondary to latency/QoS.
Thanks, Vivek was able to point me at the old thread:
http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-fsdevel/msg44191.html
Cheers,
Jeff
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2012-01-17 20:06 ` [LSF/MM TOPIC] a few storage topics Mike Snitzer
2012-01-17 21:36 ` [Lsf-pc] " Jan Kara
2012-01-18 22:58 ` Darrick J. Wong
2012-01-18 23:22 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-18 23:42 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-01-19 9:46 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-19 15:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-19 20:52 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-19 21:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-22 11:31 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-01-23 16:30 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-22 12:21 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-01-23 16:18 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-23 17:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-23 18:28 ` Jeff Moyer
2012-01-23 18:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-23 19:19 ` Jeff Moyer [this message]
2012-01-24 15:15 ` Chris Mason
2012-01-24 16:56 ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2012-01-24 17:01 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-01-24 17:06 ` [Lsf-pc] [dm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-24 17:08 ` Chris Mason
2012-01-24 17:08 ` [Lsf-pc] " Andreas Dilger
2012-01-24 18:05 ` [dm-devel] " Jeff Moyer
2012-01-24 18:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-01-24 19:07 ` Chris Mason
2012-01-24 19:14 ` Jeff Moyer
2012-01-24 20:09 ` [Lsf-pc] [dm-devel] " Jan Kara
2012-01-24 20:13 ` [Lsf-pc] " Jeff Moyer
2012-01-24 20:39 ` [Lsf-pc] [dm-devel] " Jan Kara
2012-01-24 20:59 ` Jeff Moyer
2012-01-24 21:08 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-25 3:29 ` Wu Fengguang
2012-01-25 6:15 ` [Lsf-pc] " Andreas Dilger
2012-01-25 6:35 ` [Lsf-pc] [dm-devel] " Wu Fengguang
2012-01-25 14:00 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-26 12:29 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-01-27 17:03 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-01-26 16:25 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-01-26 20:37 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-26 22:34 ` Dave Chinner
2012-01-27 3:27 ` Wu Fengguang
2012-01-27 5:25 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-01-27 7:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2012-01-25 14:33 ` Steven Whitehouse
2012-01-25 14:45 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-25 16:22 ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 16:40 ` Steven Whitehouse
2012-01-25 17:08 ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 17:32 ` James Bottomley
2012-01-25 18:28 ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 18:37 ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 18:37 ` James Bottomley
2012-01-25 20:06 ` Chris Mason
2012-01-25 22:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-25 22:58 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-26 8:59 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-01-26 16:40 ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-26 17:00 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-01-26 17:16 ` Loke, Chetan
2012-02-03 12:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2012-01-26 22:38 ` Dave Chinner
2012-01-26 16:17 ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 18:44 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-02-03 12:55 ` Wu Fengguang
2012-01-24 19:11 ` [dm-devel] [Lsf-pc] " Jeff Moyer
2012-01-26 22:31 ` Dave Chinner
2012-01-24 17:12 ` Jeff Moyer
2012-01-24 17:32 ` Chris Mason
2012-01-24 18:14 ` Jeff Moyer
2012-01-25 0:23 ` NeilBrown
2012-01-25 6:11 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-01-18 23:39 ` Dan Williams
2012-01-24 17:59 ` Martin K. Petersen
2012-01-24 19:48 ` Douglas Gilbert
2012-01-24 20:04 ` Martin K. Petersen
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