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From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, neilb@suse.de, dm-devel@redhat.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Lsf-pc] [LSF/MM TOPIC] a few storage topics
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 14:19:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x49lioy9qgq.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120123185650.GF30782@redhat.com> (Andrea Arcangeli's message of "Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:56:50 +0100")

Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> writes:

> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 01:28:08PM -0500, Jeff Moyer wrote:
>> Are you speaking from experience?  If so, what workloads were negatively
>> affected by merging, and how did you measure that?
>
> Any workload where two processes compete for accessing the same disk
> and one process writes big requests (usually async writes), the other
> small (usually sync reads). The one with the small 4k requests
> (usually reads) gets some artificial latency if the big requests are
> 512k. Vivek did a recent measurement to verify the issue is still
> there, and it's basically an hardware issue. Software can't do much
> other than possibly reducing the max request size when we notice such
> an I/O pattern coming in cfq. I did old measurements that's how I knew
> it, but they were so ancient they're worthless by now, this is why
> Vivek had to repeat it to verify before we could assume it still
> existed on recent hardware.
>
> These days with cgroups it may be a bit more relevant as max write
> bandwidth may be secondary to latency/QoS.

Thanks, Vivek was able to point me at the old thread:
  http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-fsdevel/msg44191.html

Cheers,
Jeff

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-23 19:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2012-01-17 20:06 ` [LSF/MM TOPIC] a few storage topics Mike Snitzer
2012-01-17 21:36   ` [Lsf-pc] " Jan Kara
2012-01-18 22:58     ` Darrick J. Wong
2012-01-18 23:22       ` Jan Kara
2012-01-18 23:42         ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-01-19  9:46           ` Jan Kara
2012-01-19 15:08             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-19 20:52               ` Jan Kara
2012-01-19 21:39                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-22 11:31                   ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-01-23 16:30                     ` Jan Kara
2012-01-22 12:21             ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-01-23 16:18               ` Jan Kara
2012-01-23 17:53                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-23 18:28                   ` Jeff Moyer
2012-01-23 18:56                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-23 19:19                       ` Jeff Moyer [this message]
2012-01-24 15:15                     ` Chris Mason
2012-01-24 16:56                       ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2012-01-24 17:01                         ` Andreas Dilger
2012-01-24 17:06                         ` [Lsf-pc] [dm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-24 17:08                         ` Chris Mason
2012-01-24 17:08                         ` [Lsf-pc] " Andreas Dilger
2012-01-24 18:05                           ` [dm-devel] " Jeff Moyer
2012-01-24 18:40                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-01-24 19:07                               ` Chris Mason
2012-01-24 19:14                                 ` Jeff Moyer
2012-01-24 20:09                                   ` [Lsf-pc] [dm-devel] " Jan Kara
2012-01-24 20:13                                     ` [Lsf-pc] " Jeff Moyer
2012-01-24 20:39                                       ` [Lsf-pc] [dm-devel] " Jan Kara
2012-01-24 20:59                                         ` Jeff Moyer
2012-01-24 21:08                                           ` Jan Kara
2012-01-25  3:29                                         ` Wu Fengguang
2012-01-25  6:15                                           ` [Lsf-pc] " Andreas Dilger
2012-01-25  6:35                                             ` [Lsf-pc] [dm-devel] " Wu Fengguang
2012-01-25 14:00                                               ` Jan Kara
2012-01-26 12:29                                                 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-01-27 17:03                                                   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-01-26 16:25                                               ` Vivek Goyal
2012-01-26 20:37                                                 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-26 22:34                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2012-01-27  3:27                                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2012-01-27  5:25                                                     ` Andreas Dilger
2012-01-27  7:53                                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2012-01-25 14:33                                             ` Steven Whitehouse
2012-01-25 14:45                                               ` Jan Kara
2012-01-25 16:22                                               ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 16:40                                                 ` Steven Whitehouse
2012-01-25 17:08                                                   ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 17:32                                                   ` James Bottomley
2012-01-25 18:28                                                     ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 18:37                                                       ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 18:37                                                       ` James Bottomley
2012-01-25 20:06                                                         ` Chris Mason
2012-01-25 22:46                                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-25 22:58                                                             ` Jan Kara
2012-01-26  8:59                                                             ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-01-26 16:40                                                             ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-26 17:00                                                               ` Andreas Dilger
2012-01-26 17:16                                                                 ` Loke, Chetan
2012-02-03 12:37                                                               ` Wu Fengguang
2012-01-26 22:38                                                           ` Dave Chinner
2012-01-26 16:17                                                         ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 18:44                                                       ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-02-03 12:55                                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2012-01-24 19:11                               ` [dm-devel] [Lsf-pc] " Jeff Moyer
2012-01-26 22:31                             ` Dave Chinner
2012-01-24 17:12                       ` Jeff Moyer
2012-01-24 17:32                         ` Chris Mason
2012-01-24 18:14                           ` Jeff Moyer
2012-01-25  0:23           ` NeilBrown
2012-01-25  6:11             ` Andreas Dilger
2012-01-18 23:39       ` Dan Williams
2012-01-24 17:59   ` Martin K. Petersen
2012-01-24 19:48     ` Douglas Gilbert
2012-01-24 20:04       ` Martin K. Petersen

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