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From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Zach Brown <zach.brown@oracle.com>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 4/6] aio: Don't inherit aio ring memory at fork
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:44:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x49tz4qiqks.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090415091534.AC18.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (KOSAKI Motohiro's message of "Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:56:34 +0900 (JST)")

KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> writes:

> Hi!
>
>> KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> writes:
>> 
>> > AIO folks, Am I missing anything?
>> >
>> > ===============
>> > Subject: [RFC][PATCH] aio: Don't inherit aio ring memory at fork
>> >
>> > Currently, mm_struct::ioctx_list member isn't copyed at fork. IOW aio context don't inherit at fork.
>> > but only ring memory inherited. that's strange.
>> >
>> > This patch mark DONTFORK to ring-memory too.
>> 
>> Well, given that clearly nobody relies on io contexts being copied to
>> the child, I think it's okay to make this change.  I think the current
>> behaviour violates the principal of least surprise, but I'm having a
>> hard time getting upset about that.  ;)
>
> ok.
> So, Can I get your Acked-by?

I have more comments below.

>> > In addition, This patch has good side effect. it also fix
>> > "get_user_pages() vs fork" problem.
>> 
>> Hmm, I don't follow you, here.  As I understand it, the get_user_pages
>> vs. fork problem has to do with the pages used for the actual I/O, not
>> the pages used to store the completion data.  So, could you elaborate a
>> bit on what you mean by the above statement?
>
> No.
>
> The problem is, get_user_pages() increment page_count only.
> but VM page-fault logic don't care page_count. (it only care page::_mapcount)
> Then, fork and pagefault can change virtual-physical relationship although
> get_user_pages() is called.
>
> drawback worst aio scenario here
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> io_setup() and gup			inc page_count
>
> fork					inc mapcount
> 					and make write-protect to pte
>
> write ring from userland(*)		page fault and
> 					COW break.
> 					parent process get copyed page and
> 					child get original page owner-ship.
>
> kmap and memcpy from kernel		change child page. (it mean data lost)
>
> (*) Is this happend?

I guess it's possible, but I don't know of any programs that do this.

> MADV_DONTFORK or down_read(mmap_sem) or down_read(mm_pinned_sem) 
> or copy-at-fork mecanism(=Nick/Andrea patch) solve it.

OK, thanks for the explanation.

+	/*
+	 * aio context doesn't inherit while fork. (see mm_init())
+	 * Then, aio ring also mark DONTFORK.
+	 */

Would you mind if I did some word-smithing on that comment?  Something
like:
	/*
	 * The io_context is not inherited by the child after fork()
         * (see mm_init).  Therefore, it makes little sense for the
         * completion ring to be inherited.
         */

+	ret = sys_madvise(info->mmap_base, info->mmap_size, MADV_DONTFORK);
+	BUG_ON(ret);
+

It appears there's no other way to set the VM_DONTCOPY flag, so I guess
calling sys_madvise is fine.  I'm not sure I agree with the BUG_ON(ret),
however, as EAGAIN may be feasible.

So, fix that up and you can add my reviewed-by.  I think you should push
this patch independent of the other patches in this series.

>> > I think "man fork" also sould be changed. it only say
>> >
>> >        *  The child does not inherit outstanding asynchronous I/O operations from
>> >           its parent (aio_read(3), aio_write(3)).
>> > but aio_context_t (return value of io_setup(2)) also don't inherit in current implementaion.
>> 
>> I can certainly make that change, as I have other changes I need to push
>> to Michael, anyway.
>
> thanks.

No problem.  As you know, I've already sent a patch for this.

Cheers,
Jeff

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-15  2:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20090414151204.C647.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>
2009-04-14  6:16 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 1/6] mm: Don't unmap gup()ed page KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-14  9:25   ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-14 12:02     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-14 12:25       ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-14 13:39         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-14 14:12           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-14 14:26             ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-14 14:32               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-14 14:42                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-14 15:21                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-15  8:05                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-15  8:22                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-15  9:22                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-15 10:46                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-15 11:39                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-15 11:41                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-15 11:53                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-19 12:37                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-14 14:38   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-14  6:18 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 2/6] mm, directio: fix fork vs direct-io race (read(2) side IOW gup(write) side) KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-14  6:25   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-14 16:45     ` Jeff Moyer
2009-04-14 17:51       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-14 18:10         ` Jeff Moyer
2009-04-14 19:48           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-14  6:19 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 3/6] nfs, direct-io: fix fork vs direct-io race on nfs KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-14 16:48   ` Jeff Moyer
2009-04-14  6:20 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 4/6] aio: Don't inherit aio ring memory at fork KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-14 13:41   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-14 16:01   ` Jeff Moyer
2009-04-15  0:56     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-15  2:44       ` Jeff Moyer [this message]
2009-04-15  3:00         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-14  6:21 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 5/6] don't use bio-map in read() path KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-14  6:23 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 6/6] fix wrong get_user_pages usage in iovlock.c KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-14  6:56   ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-14  6:58     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-15  8:48       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-17 15:07         ` Sosnowski, Maciej
2009-04-19 12:37           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-23 12:48             ` Sosnowski, Maciej
2009-04-14  8:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/6] IO pinning(get_user_pages()) vs fork race fix Nick Piggin
2009-04-14  9:19   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-14  9:37     ` Nick Piggin

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