From: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Cc: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>,
"Grygorii.Strashko@linaro.org" <grygorii.strashko@linaro.org>,
Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@gmail.com>,
"linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org" <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] gpiolib: debugfs: display gpios requested as irq only
Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 16:34:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150521143401.GB30660@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdbupBQBsymB4wcC9XxbFJMhzxoZVXhyKxZT+xxuSxwifA@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 09:21:16AM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:
> On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 04:12:35PM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:
>
> >> What? If I wanted a stable interface I would use sysfs and document
> >> the ABI in Documentation/ABI/*.
> >>
> >> debugfs is not ABI.
> >
> > As I mentioned in my response to Grygorii, not everyone -- and most
> > notably apparently not even Linus Torvalds -- agrees on this:
>
> Yeah I was sloppy I guess.
>
> What I mean, precisely is that sysfs is ABI, whether documented or
> not.
>
> Even debugfs is actually blurry, as per
> Documentation/filesystems/debugfs.txt:
>
> "The debugfs filesystem is also intended to not serve as a stable
> ABI to user space; in theory, there are no stability constraints placed on
> files exported there. The real world is not always so simple, though [1];
> even debugfs interfaces are best designed with the idea that they will need
> to be maintained forever."
>
> But I haven't been bitten by it yet so that's why I allow some poetic
> license.
Yes, and the [1] reference in that quote is the LWN article I referred
to.
I also see you already "broke" that ABI in a similar way in 2013 with
d468bf9ecaab ("gpio: add API to be strict about GPIO IRQ usage") by
adding the IRQ field.
Your call. :)
Johan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-21 14:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-15 13:25 [PATCH] gpiolib: debugfs: display gpios requested as irq only grygorii.strashko
2015-05-18 11:02 ` Johan Hovold
2015-05-18 13:06 ` Grygorii.Strashko@linaro.org
2015-05-18 15:08 ` Johan Hovold
2015-05-18 15:17 ` Grygorii.Strashko@linaro.org
2015-05-18 15:58 ` Johan Hovold
2015-05-19 14:12 ` Linus Walleij
2015-05-19 14:37 ` Grygorii.Strashko@linaro.org
2015-05-19 14:50 ` Linus Walleij
2015-05-19 15:39 ` Johan Hovold
2015-05-20 7:21 ` Linus Walleij
2015-05-21 14:34 ` Johan Hovold [this message]
2015-05-19 14:28 ` Linus Walleij
2015-05-21 14:25 ` Johan Hovold
2015-05-21 20:33 ` Grygorii.Strashko@linaro.org
2015-05-24 17:12 ` Johan Hovold
2015-05-25 18:54 ` Grygorii.Strashko@linaro.org
2015-05-25 20:39 ` Johan Hovold
2015-06-01 13:09 ` Linus Walleij
2015-06-02 12:33 ` Grygorii.Strashko@linaro.org
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