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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: "Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Tomeu Vizoso" <tomeu.vizoso@collabora.com>,
	"Michael Turquette" <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	"Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	"Vinod Koul" <vinod.koul@intel.com>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Linus Walleij" <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <gnurou@gmail.com>,
	"Thierry Reding" <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@linux.ie>,
	"Terje Bergström" <tbergstrom@nvidia.com>,
	"Stephen Warren" <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	"Wolfram Sang" <wsa@the-dreams.de>,
	"Frank Rowand" <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
	"Grant Likely" <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	"Kishon Vijay Abraham I" <kishon@ti.com>,
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	"Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov" <dbaryshkov@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 16:43:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151019154324.GN32532@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1445268580.53393.183.camel@infradead.org>

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 04:29:40PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> I don't know that there *is* a coherent plan here to address it all.
> 
> Certainly, we *will* need subsystems to have firmware-specific
> knowledge in some cases. Take GPIO as an example; ACPI *has* a way to
> describe GPIO, and properties which reference GPIO pins are intended to
> work through that — while in DT, properties which reference GPIO pins
> will have different contents. They'll be compatible at the driver
> level, in the sense that there's a call to get a given GPIO given the
> property name, but the subsystems *will* be doing different things
> behind the scenes.

It's a bit ironic that you've chosen GPIO as an example there.  The
"new" GPIO API (the gpiod_* stuff) only has a fwnode way to get the
gpio descriptor.  There's no of_* method.

I'd like to use the gpiod_* stuff, but I feel that my options are
rather limited: either use fwnode_get_named_gpiod() with
&dev->of_node->fwnode, which seems like a hack by going underneath
the covers of how fwnode is (partially) implemented with DT, or by
using of_get_named_gpio() and the converting the gpio number to a
descriptor via gpio_to_desc().  Both feel very hacky.

If ACPI already handles GPIOs internally, then I'm left wondering
why GPIO descriptor stuff went down the fwnode route at all - it
seems rather pointless in this case, and it seems to make the use
of the gpiod* interfaces where we _do_ need to use it (DT) harder
and more hacky.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-19 15:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-14  8:34 [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Tomeu Vizoso
2015-10-14  9:26 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-15 11:42   ` Tomeu Vizoso
     [not found]     ` <1444909328-24761-1-git-send-email-tomeu.vizoso-ZGY8ohtN/8qB+jHODAdFcQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-16 21:23       ` Olof Johansson
2015-10-17 15:19         ` Rob Herring
2015-10-19 16:52           ` Olof Johansson
2015-10-17  6:57 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-10-17 15:04   ` Rob Herring
2015-10-17 15:47     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-10-17 16:28       ` Rob Herring
2015-10-17 16:56         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-10-17 17:54           ` Rob Clark
2015-10-17 18:27             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-10-17 18:45               ` Rob Clark
2015-10-17 18:59                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-10-17 19:39                   ` Rob Clark
2015-10-17 20:22                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-10-17 19:04                 ` Noralf Trønnes
2015-10-17 19:48                   ` Rob Clark
2015-10-18 19:41       ` Mark Brown
2015-10-18 19:29   ` Mark Brown
2015-10-18 19:37     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-10-18 19:53       ` Mark Brown
2015-10-19  9:44         ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-19  9:52           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-19 11:02           ` Mark Brown
2015-10-19 12:35           ` Rob Herring
2015-10-19 12:47             ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-19 14:50               ` Mark Brown
2015-10-19 15:29                 ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-19 15:43                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2015-10-19 18:27                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-10-19 18:39                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-19 23:47                         ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-20  7:14                           ` gpiod API considerations [Was: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing] Uwe Kleine-König
2015-10-20 11:12                     ` [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing David Woodhouse
2015-10-19 15:58                   ` Rob Herring
2015-10-19 21:40                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-19 22:58                       ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                         ` <CAL_JsqKa3MFJUWKV2KxPE_NmrP2g4dOD3zr+0Kyx4yBkDOg2HA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-20  7:56                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-20 14:15                             ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                               ` <CAL_JsqJuu5_Osqi+X6M6UeRDZFQB+_8riYDF1gvsGayk5-4SFw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-20 14:40                                 ` Alan Stern
2015-10-20 15:36                                   ` Mark Brown
2015-10-20 16:04                                     ` Alan Stern
2015-10-20 16:21                                       ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-10-20 17:14                                         ` Alan Stern
2015-10-20 19:35                                           ` Mark Brown
2015-10-20 23:35                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-21  6:15                                               ` Jean-Francois Moine
2015-10-22  0:54                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-22  9:14                                           ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-10-27  5:03                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-20 23:34                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-21  8:55                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-21 23:39                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-19 16:04                   ` Mark Brown
2015-10-19 12:34         ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-10-19 13:18           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]             ` <20151019131821.GA32532-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-19 14:10               ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-10-19 14:30                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-19 15:00                   ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-10-19 15:35                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-19 16:21                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-19 16:45                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-20 15:46                         ` Alternative approach to solve the deferred probe (was: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing) Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-21  3:58                           ` Alternative approach to solve the deferred probe Frank Rowand
2015-10-21  8:18                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-21 15:36                               ` Frank Rowand
2015-10-21 16:55                                 ` Grygorii Strashko
2015-10-21 17:20                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-21 18:13                                     ` Grygorii Strashko
2015-10-21 18:28                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-22 15:12                                         ` Grygorii Strashko
2015-10-21 18:02                                   ` Frank Rowand
2015-10-21 18:29                                     ` Grygorii Strashko
2015-10-21 20:35                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-22  0:05                                   ` Frank Rowand
2015-10-22 13:20                           ` Alternative approach to solve the deferred probe (was: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing) Mark Brown
     [not found]           ` <CAAObsKB2BUZ-smid45wOdAQw6h2yNqCydk+azAFNk69ewHJtZQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-21 15:59             ` [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Frank Rowand
2015-10-21 16:27               ` Mark Brown
2015-10-21 18:18                 ` Frank Rowand
2015-10-21 21:03                   ` Mark Brown
2015-10-21 21:12                   ` Rob Herring
2015-10-21 21:50                     ` Frank Rowand
2015-10-22  9:05                       ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-10-22 14:38                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-10-22 14:44                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]                           ` <20151022144405.GC21861-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-22 15:02                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-22 23:33                               ` Mark Brown
2015-10-22 18:53                           ` Frank Rowand
2015-10-22 19:26                             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]                               ` <20151022192639.GC27248-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-23 12:28                                 ` Tomeu Vizoso
     [not found]                             ` <562930AB.1070203-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-23 15:45                               ` Tim Bird
2015-10-23 16:34                                 ` Rob Herring
2015-10-24 14:17                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-24 22:06                                     ` Mark Brown
2015-10-25 13:54                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-26  1:12                                         ` Mark Brown
2015-10-26 10:51                                         ` Michael Turquette
2015-10-26 12:55                                           ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-10-26 23:37                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-25 19:45                                 ` Andrew F. Davis
2015-10-24 17:55                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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