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From: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
To: Icenowy Zheng <icenowy-ymACFijhrKM@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linus Walleij
	<linus.walleij-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Andre Przywara <andre.przywara-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	ext Tony Lindgren <tony-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Chen-Yu Tsai <wens-jdAy2FN1RRM@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org"
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] drivers: pinctrl: add driver for Allwinner H5 SoC
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 18:29:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170119172959.pyulsvak4wpqor2x@lukather> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <128701484831509-mf8Frdr2Tdlxpj1cXAZ9Bg@public.gmane.org>

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On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 09:11:49PM +0800, Icenowy Zheng wrote:
> 19.01.2017, 17:23, "Linus Walleij" <linus.walleij-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>:
> > On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Andre Przywara <andre.przywara-AbSShOkvfpQ@public.gmane.orgm> wrote:
> >
> >>  Any future SoCs could then just use that compatible and would describe
> >>  the SoC details in the DT, like it's meant to be and like we do already,
> >>  but extended by putting the mux value in there as well.
> >>  So the only kernel contribution would then be the DT, really, (...)
> >
> > Your different positions have existed since the inception of the
> > pinctrl subsystem:
> >
> > - One camp (myself included) wanted to describe the hardware mostly
> >   in the driver: functions, groups etc are tables in the driver file.
> >
> > - Another camp (OMAP included) think that the device tree should take
> >   store most things: groups functions, etc.
> >
> > What we know for sure should be described in DT is how different
> > IP blocks are connected in an SoC (e.g. interrupts, clocks, DMA
> > channels, regulators) and on the of course outside of the SoC, on
> > the board.
> >
> > The question here is whether the way a hardware has instantiated
> > a certain IP block when doing physical compilation in their
> > Verilog, VHDL or SystemC files, is something that should be
> > described in DT.
> >
> > Many companies have developed tools to
> > extract this data from their hardware design files and provide
> > it to developers as a blob och incomprehensible data, such was
> > the situation for OMAP for example. So to them it made most
> > sense to implement pinctrl-single, just parsing that data into
> > DTS(I) files.
> >
> > Other companies (such as STMicroelectronics) instead put a
> > team of people to write a datasheet with a special chapter
> > on how pins etc are connected, and programmers are given
> > this datasheet and need to again type in the data and define
> > groups etc.
> >
> > Whether parametrization of a HW block should be done in the
> > driver file from the compatible string or with custom attributes
> > in the node is not a simple answer to the question. OF is vague
> > on this kind of things: both solutions exist.
> >
> > Allwinner and Qualcomm authors faced a situation such as that
> > they were given a code dump and no datasheet and no data
> > tables either. That creates an especially complicated situation
> > where none of the above scenarios apply.
> 
> Allwinner do give user manual about the pin controller, and they're
> used when we write the pinctrl-sunxi driver.

That has not always been true for all the SoCs, and it's still not the
case, even for newer SoCs.

Maxime

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-19 17:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-23 12:50 [PATCH 1/2] drivers: pinctrl: add driver for Allwinner H5 SoC Icenowy Zheng
     [not found] ` <20161223125001.1176-1-icenowy-ymACFijhrKM@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-23 12:50   ` [PATCH 2/2] arm64: allwinner: Kconfig: add essential pinctrl driver for H5 Icenowy Zheng
2016-12-26 14:33   ` [PATCH 1/2] drivers: pinctrl: add driver for Allwinner H5 SoC André Przywara
     [not found]     ` <1280f095-ab03-93f8-14d2-99d13ba1ce55-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-30 12:55       ` Linus Walleij
2016-12-30 19:42         ` [linux-sunxi] " Tony Lindgren
     [not found]         ` <CACRpkdYQhfid3VRcaj=7as_+Zg=pX3Svp9FJ_W_Ft8nVuoZqKQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-05 22:42           ` Maxime Ripard
2017-01-09  0:16             ` André Przywara
2017-01-16 16:31               ` [linux-sunxi] " Maxime Ripard
2017-01-18  9:44                 ` Andre Przywara
     [not found]                   ` <87a535d3-1170-c388-ce7d-4921e69f4cab-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-19  9:23                     ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]                       ` <CACRpkdaTVY7Of5bKyk81xA2kUnZVMQ8LnWEJosg7Ns3s5nAEYQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-19 13:11                         ` Icenowy Zheng
     [not found]                           ` <128701484831509-mf8Frdr2Tdlxpj1cXAZ9Bg@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-19 17:29                             ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2017-01-19 17:41                     ` Maxime Ripard
2017-01-26 10:03                       ` Linus Walleij

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