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From: William Breathitt Gray <vilhelm.gray@gmail.com>
To: "Maciej S. Szmigiero" <mail@maciej.szmigiero.name>
Cc: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] gpio: winbond: add driver
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 23:58:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171228045850.GB11117@sophia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d6f8aa80-47f1-ccf2-8c85-6839f13058fb@maciej.szmigiero.name>

On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 07:42:21PM +0100, Maciej S. Szmigiero wrote:
>On 27.12.2017 01:24, William Breathitt Gray wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 03:48:16PM +0100, Maciej S. Szmigiero wrote:
>(..)
>>> All the existing ISA bus drivers seem to depend on CONFIG_ISA_BUS_API
>>> instead of selecting it but IMHO this is wrong because:
>>> 1) This Kconfig option doesn't really enable or disable any bus support
>>> but building of a library of some common boilerplate code.
>>> Libraries are normally selected by drivers needing them and only provided
>>> as an user-selectable option if there is a possibility that a out-of-tree
>>> module would need it,
>>>
>>> 2) On x86_64 this option (or rather, its parent option CONFIG_ISA_BUS)
>>> cannot be enabled without CONFIG_EXPERT,
>>>
>>> 3) This device isn't really a ISA bus device any more than, for example,
>>> a 8250 serial port or a PC-style parallel port and these don't need
>>> that an user explicitly enables "ISA bus support" in his kernel
>>> configuration.
>> 
>> I can see what you mean about selecting ISA_BUS_API rather than having
>> it as a dependency for drivers. Part of the reason I added the
>> CONFIG_EXPERT dependency for CONFIG_ISA_BUS -- as well as having
>> CONFIG_ISA_BUS_API be a dependency for the drivers themselves -- was to
>> hide the ISA-style drivers which blindly poke at I/O port addresses,
>> lest a niave user enable all available drivers and unintentionally brick
>> their system when the drivers execute.
>> 
>> I think there is still merit in masking dangerous drivers such as this,
>> since the expected behavior nowadays is for the driver to probe for the
>> device before poking at memory; since ISA-style communication lacks a
>> standard method of detecting devices in hardware, these devices
>> generally pose a danger when loaded by niave users.
>
>This driver accesses the same Super I/O chip as w83627ehf hwmon and
>w83627hf_wdt watchdog drivers.
>In addition to this, there are loads of other hwmon and watchdog drivers
>for x86 Super I/Os in the tree, most of them using the same probing and
>communication style.
>There are even existing GPIO drivers for some Super I/Os like gpio-it87
>and gpio-f7188x.
>
>None of these drivers need CONFIG_EXPERT to be selected.
>
>Also, CONFIG_EXPERT is described as "Configure standard kernel features"
>and that "[it] allows certain base kernel options and settings to be
>disabled or tweaked" for "specialized environments".
>Enabling this driver is not about changing "standard kernel feature" or
>a "base kernel option [or] setting".

I'm sorry, I didn't make it quite clear in my previous reply. I agree
with you that CONFIG_EXPERT shouldn't be necessary for this driver -- in
the end, a select ISA_BUS_API line should be all that's needed to have
ISA bus driver support for your driver.

My reference to the CONFIG_EXPERT option is for masking options related
to other ISA-style buses not commonly found in desktop systems. Devices
like the Super I/O chip wouldn't fall into this category since LPC is
pretty common and the relevant I/O port addresses are usually well
known. Ultimately, the Winbond GPIO driver should not need CONFIG_EXPERT
to be enabled in order to select ISA_BUS_API.

William Breathitt Gray

>> 
>> William Breathitt Gray
>
>Maciej Szmigiero

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-28  4:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-22 18:58 [PATCH v2] gpio: winbond: add driver Maciej S. Szmigiero
2017-12-24 22:42 ` William Breathitt Gray
2017-12-25  0:00   ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2017-12-25 14:48     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2017-12-27  0:24       ` William Breathitt Gray
2017-12-27 11:16         ` Linus Walleij
2017-12-28  4:33           ` William Breathitt Gray
2017-12-28 12:52             ` Linus Walleij
2017-12-27 18:42         ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2017-12-28  4:58           ` William Breathitt Gray [this message]
2017-12-28 22:45             ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2017-12-28 15:12 ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-12-28 23:44   ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2017-12-29 10:27     ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-12-29 16:09       ` William Breathitt Gray
2017-12-30 21:02         ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2017-12-30 21:02       ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2017-12-28 15:18 ` Andy Shevchenko

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