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From: Kent Gibson <warthog618@gmail.com>
To: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>
Cc: "Viresh Kumar" <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	"Linus Walleij" <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	"Bartosz Golaszewski" <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
	"Vincent Guittot" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"open list:GPIO SUBSYSTEM" <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Wedson Almeida Filho" <wedsonaf@google.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	stratos-dev@op-lists.linaro.org,
	"Gerard Ryan" <g.m0n3y.2503@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 4/8] libgpiod: Add rust wrapper crate
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 20:40:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220727124051.GA130052@sol> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANiq72mXH2Z-5aOu6dz47-hDPZjNQZAqYeGPv1vu3fARHJUtuw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 01:06:28PM +0200, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 12:08 PM Kent Gibson <warthog618@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > It should never return NULL.  At the moment.
> > I would prefer to have NULL checks for all cases, not assume anything
> > about the C implementation, and to be consistent with other places
> > where you do NULL checks.  As it stands when I see this I need to go check
> > the C to see if this is a reasonable exception or not.  And I'm lazy.
> 
> Ideally the C side would document the guarantees explicitly instead,
> and then the Rust side can rely on them.
> 

Unfortunately the C header doesn't currently provide any guarantee -
except in the cases where it CAN return NULL.
But we can fix that.

> In any case, if a given C API never returned an invalid pointer and
> suddenly it starts doing so in some cases, I would consider that a
> breaking change in practice, which would likely break C users too.
> 

Not sure I'm onboard with that.  Unless the API has a contract not to
return a NULL then it is free to at a later date. The user should
always assume that NULL is a possibility, even if they have never seen
one.

But in practice you are probably right.

> A potential compromise meanwhile is `debug_assert!` to at least test
> those assumptions.
> 

I'd be fine with that.
I'd also be satisfied with a comment in the Rust that the C guarantees a
non-NULL where that is the case.  That would at least demonstrate that the
possibility has been duly considered.

Cheers,
Kent.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-27 12:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-08 11:34 [PATCH V4 0/8] libgpiod: Add Rust bindings Viresh Kumar
2022-07-08 11:34 ` [PATCH V4 1/8] libgpiod: Add libgpiod-sys rust crate Viresh Kumar
2022-07-27  2:57   ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-27  4:51     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-07-27  5:17       ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-27  5:45         ` Viresh Kumar
2022-08-01 12:11         ` Viresh Kumar
2022-08-01 15:56           ` Kent Gibson
2022-08-02  8:50             ` Viresh Kumar
2022-08-02  9:36               ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-08 11:34 ` [PATCH V4 2/8] libgpiod: Add pre generated rust bindings Viresh Kumar
2022-07-27  2:57   ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-27  5:15     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-07-27  5:31       ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-27  6:00         ` Viresh Kumar
2022-07-27  6:06           ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-08 11:34 ` [PATCH V4 3/8] libgpiod-sys: Add support to generate gpiosim bindings Viresh Kumar
2022-07-27  2:57   ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-27  5:30     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-07-08 11:34 ` [PATCH V4 4/8] libgpiod: Add rust wrapper crate Viresh Kumar
2022-07-27  2:57   ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-27  9:07     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-07-27 10:08       ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-27 11:06         ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-07-27 12:40           ` Kent Gibson [this message]
2022-07-27 13:02             ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-07-28  3:11               ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-29  4:40                 ` Viresh Kumar
2022-07-28  3:10         ` Kent Gibson
2022-08-01 12:05         ` Viresh Kumar
2022-08-01 13:20           ` Kent Gibson
2022-08-01 13:28             ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-07-28  8:52     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-07-28  9:59       ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-08 11:34 ` [PATCH V4 5/8] libgpiod: Add rust examples Viresh Kumar
2022-07-27  2:58   ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-27  9:23     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-07-27  9:59       ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-27 10:06         ` Viresh Kumar
2022-07-27 10:32           ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-27 10:33             ` Viresh Kumar
2022-07-08 11:34 ` [PATCH V4 6/8] libgpiod: Derive debug traits for few definitions Viresh Kumar
2022-07-27  2:58   ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-27  6:20     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-07-08 11:35 ` [PATCH V4 7/8] libgpiod: Add rust tests Viresh Kumar
2022-07-27  2:58   ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-27  9:59     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-07-27 10:27       ` Kent Gibson
2022-08-01 11:54     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-08-01 12:38       ` Kent Gibson
2022-08-02  5:44         ` Viresh Kumar
2022-08-02  5:47           ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-08 11:35 ` [PATCH V4 8/8] libgpiod: Integrate building of rust bindings with make Viresh Kumar
2022-07-27  2:59   ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-27  6:18     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-07-27  6:25       ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-27  6:35         ` Viresh Kumar
2022-07-27  6:45           ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-27  6:51             ` Viresh Kumar
2022-07-15 19:07 ` [PATCH V4 0/8] libgpiod: Add Rust bindings Bartosz Golaszewski
2022-07-15 19:17   ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-07-15 19:27     ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-07-16  9:43       ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-07-16 10:43         ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2022-07-16 12:23           ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-16 13:46           ` Miguel Ojeda

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