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From: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
To: Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>
Cc: linux@armlinux.org.uk, krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org,
	arnd@arndb.de, lee@kernel.org, linus.walleij@linaro.org,
	alyssa@rosenzweig.io, asahi@lists.linux.dev, brgl@bgdev.pl,
	marcan@marcan.st, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, sven@svenpeter.dev,
	krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] dt-bindings: mfd: add binding for Apple Mac System Management Controller
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2022 12:28:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220902172808.GB52527-robh@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d3cec3d22e464fa8@bloch.sibelius.xs4all.nl>

On Fri, Sep 02, 2022 at 05:06:43PM +0200, Mark Kettenis wrote:
> > From: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
> > Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2022 17:33:31 -0500
> > 
> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 11:47 AM Russell King (Oracle)
> > <linux@armlinux.org.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 01, 2022 at 07:25:03PM +0300, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> > > > On 01/09/2022 18:56, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 8<===
> > > > > From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <rmk+kernel@armlinux.org.uk>
> > > > > Subject: [PATCH] dt-bindings: mfd: add binding for Apple Mac System Management
> > > > >  Controller
> > > > >
> > > > > Add a DT binding for the Apple Mac System Management Controller.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Russell King (Oracle) <rmk+kernel@armlinux.org.uk>
> > > >
> > > > Yes, looks good.
> > > >
> > > > I won't add Reviewed-by tag, because I think it would confuse Patchwork,
> > > > so please send a v2 at some point.
> > >
> > > Thanks. Do you have any suggestions for patch 2? Should I merge the
> > > description in patch 2 into this file?
> > >
> > > The full dts for this series looks like this:
> > >
> > >                 smc: smc@23e400000 {
> > >                         compatible = "apple,t8103-smc", "apple,smc";
> > >                         reg = <0x2 0x3e400000 0x0 0x4000>,
> > >                                 <0x2 0x3fe00000 0x0 0x100000>;
> > >                         reg-names = "smc", "sram";
> > >                         mboxes = <&smc_mbox>;
> > >
> > >                         smc_gpio: gpio {
> > >                                 gpio-controller;
> > >                                 #gpio-cells = <2>;
> > >                         };
> > >                 };
> > >
> > > but the fuller version in the asahi linux tree looks like:
> > >
> > >                 smc: smc@23e400000 {
> > >                         compatible = "apple,t8103-smc", "apple,smc";
> > >                         reg = <0x2 0x3e400000 0x0 0x4000>,
> > >                                 <0x2 0x3fe00000 0x0 0x100000>;
> > >                         reg-names = "smc", "sram";
> > >                         mboxes = <&smc_mbox>;
> > >
> > >                         smc_gpio: gpio {
> > >                                 gpio-controller;
> > >                                 #gpio-cells = <2>;
> > 
> > Only 2 properties doesn't really need its own schema doc. However, I
> > would just move these to the parent node.
> 
> When we designed the bindings, it was our understanding that having
> separate nodes better matches Linux's MFD driver model.

Well, it is convenient to have subnodes with compatibles so that your 
drivers automagically probe. So yes, a 1:1 relationship of nodes to 
drivers is nice and tidy. But h/w is not always packaged up neatly and 
it's not DT's job to try to abstract it such that it is. Also, we 
shouldn't design bindings around the *current* driver partitioning of 
some OS.

This one is actually pretty odd in that the child nodes don't have a 
compatible string which breaks the automagical probing.

> Please be aware that OpenBSD is already using these bindings.  If
> there are good reasons for moving things, we can probably deal with
> that.  But this sounds a bit like a toss up.

Sigh. If there are other bindings in use, please submit them even if the 
Linux driver isn't ready. If a Linux subsystem maintainer doesn't want 
to take it, then I will. 

It is a toss up though...

> > >                         };
> > >
> > >                         smc_rtc: rtc {
> > >                                 nvmem-cells = <&rtc_offset>;
> > >                                 nvmem-cell-names = "rtc_offset";
> > >                         };
> > >
> > >                         smc_reboot: reboot {
> > >                                 nvmem-cells = <&shutdown_flag>, <&boot_stage>,
> > >                                         <&boot_error_count>, <&panic_count>, <&pm_setting>;
> > >                                 nvmem-cell-names = "shutdown_flag", "boot_stage",
> > >                                         "boot_error_count", "panic_count", "pm_setting";
> > 
> > Not really much reason to split these up either because you can just
> > fetch the entry you want by name.
> 
> Again the separate nodes are there because the RTC and the reboot
> functionality are logically separate and handled by different MFD
> sub-drivers in Linux.

It's really a question of whether the subset of functionality is going 
to get reused on its own or has its own resources in DT. MFD bindings 
are done both ways.

Rob

  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-02 17:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 171+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-01 13:54 [PATCH 0/6] Add Apple Mac System Management Controller GPIOs Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 13:54 ` [PATCH 1/6] dt-bindings: mfd: add binding for Apple Mac System Management Controller Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 15:06   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-01 15:12     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 15:15       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-01 15:24         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 15:45           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-01 15:56             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 16:25               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-01 16:47                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 22:33                   ` Rob Herring
2022-09-02 15:06                     ` Mark Kettenis
2022-09-02 17:28                       ` Rob Herring [this message]
2022-09-05 10:24                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-06  9:04                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-06  9:31                           ` Mark Kettenis
2022-09-06 11:22                             ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-06 11:36                               ` Hector Martin
2022-09-06 11:57                                 ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-06 13:28                                   ` Hector Martin
2022-09-06 13:43                                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-06 13:53                                       ` Hector Martin
2022-09-06 14:25                                         ` Mark Kettenis
2022-09-06 14:54                                           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-06 15:38                                             ` Mark Kettenis
2022-09-06 15:55                                             ` Rob Herring
2022-09-06 13:46                                     ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-06 15:34                                 ` Rob Herring
2022-09-06 16:10                           ` Rob Herring
2022-09-06 17:00                             ` Hector Martin
2022-09-06 17:35                               ` Rob Herring
2022-09-06 17:40                                 ` Sven Peter
2022-09-06 18:38                                 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-07  9:39                                   ` Mark Kettenis
2022-09-01 22:26               ` Rob Herring
2022-09-02 14:49                 ` Mark Kettenis
2022-09-02 17:04                   ` Rob Herring
2022-09-01 19:14   ` Rob Herring
2022-09-01 13:54 ` [PATCH 2/6] dt-bindings: gpio: add binding for the GPIO block for Apple Mac SMC Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 15:11   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-01 15:14     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 13:54 ` [PATCH 3/6] soc: apple: rtkit: Add apple_rtkit_poll Russell King
2022-09-01 17:00   ` Sven Peter
2022-09-01 17:25   ` Eric Curtin
2022-09-01 13:54 ` [PATCH 4/6] platform/apple: Add new Apple Mac SMC driver Russell King
2022-09-01 17:50   ` Sven Peter
2022-09-05 10:55     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 16:53       ` Hector Martin
2022-09-01 19:26   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02  6:45     ` Sven Peter
2022-09-05 14:45     ` Hector Martin
2022-09-05 15:00       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-08 10:58   ` Lee Jones
2022-09-08 11:28     ` Hector Martin
2022-09-08 12:31       ` Lee Jones
2022-09-08 12:58         ` Hector Martin
2022-09-08 13:29           ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-08 13:36           ` Lee Jones
2022-09-08 13:58             ` Hector Martin
2022-09-09  7:50               ` Lee Jones
2022-09-12 10:03                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-12 10:55                   ` Lee Jones
2022-10-28 15:36                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-10-31  8:46                       ` Lee Jones
2022-10-31  9:03                         ` Hector Martin
2022-10-31  9:44                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-10-31 17:24                           ` Lee Jones
2022-10-31 19:47                             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-01  9:59                               ` Lee Jones
2022-10-29  6:40                 ` Hector Martin
2022-10-31  8:48                   ` Lee Jones
2022-10-31  8:58                     ` Hector Martin
2022-10-31  9:29                       ` Lee Jones
2022-10-31  9:44                         ` Hector Martin
2022-10-31 17:23                           ` Lee Jones
2022-10-31 19:34                             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-02 13:12                               ` Lee Jones
2022-11-02 15:54                                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 13:54 ` [PATCH 5/6] gpio: Add new gpio-macsmc driver for Apple Macs Russell King
2022-09-01 18:55   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-01 21:51     ` Martin Povišer
2022-09-02  6:31       ` Andy Shevchenko
     [not found]         ` <3B649A66-8116-432D-B88A-B5CE493EF930@cutebit.org>
     [not found]           ` <CAHp75VeB3_sZ2vsSxMSsLeJSkyemDh9iOPHXJCN1mhodA13LNQ@mail.gmail.com>
2022-09-02 11:12             ` Martin Povišer
2022-09-02 13:33               ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 13:36                 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 13:37                 ` Martin Povišer
2022-09-02 14:41                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 14:45                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-02 10:05     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-02 10:37       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 11:32         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-02 13:39           ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 14:46             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-02 14:53               ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 15:34                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-02 15:43                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-05 10:20                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 10:32                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-05 13:10                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 13:16                           ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-05 14:01                             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 14:02                               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 14:42                                 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-05 14:53                                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 14:50                               ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-05 15:52                               ` Hector Martin
2022-09-05 15:56                                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 15:32                             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 15:44                               ` Martin Povišer
2022-09-05 15:58                                 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-05 16:13                                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 19:10                                     ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-06  6:51                                       ` Hector Martin
2022-09-05 15:47                             ` Hector Martin
2022-09-05 15:39                       ` Hector Martin
2022-09-05 15:16       ` Hector Martin
2022-09-05 15:04     ` Hector Martin
2022-09-02  9:42   ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-01 13:54 ` [PATCH 6/6] gpio: macsmc: Add IRQ support Russell King
2022-09-01 18:03   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-05 11:54     ` Russell King (Oracle)
     [not found]       ` <CAHp75VeDGCp8J6wnmCqGpV++vs2Zur9Mfp71Dk8dVXcuHFnCrQ@mail.gmail.com>
2022-09-05 13:21         ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 13:21   ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-05 12:47     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 13:19       ` Fwd: " Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-05 21:43         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 13:27       ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-06  7:00     ` Hector Martin
2022-09-06  7:47       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-06  8:00         ` Hector Martin
2022-09-01 15:12 ` [PATCH 0/6] Add Apple Mac System Management Controller GPIOs Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-10-27 15:35 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-08 16:32 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] " Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-08 16:33   ` [PATCH v3 1/7] mfd: Add core Apple Mac SMC driver Russell King
2022-11-14  9:52     ` Lee Jones
2022-11-14 10:35     ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-11-08 16:33   ` [PATCH v3 2/7] lib/vsprintf: Add support for generic FOURCCs by extending %p4cc Russell King
2022-11-14 15:34     ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-14 15:46       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-11-14 16:18         ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-14 16:15       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-14 16:46         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-22 12:43         ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-22 14:49     ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-08 16:33   ` [PATCH v3 3/7] dt-bindings: mfd: add binding for Apple Mac System Management Controller Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-08 20:42     ` Linus Walleij
2022-11-08 20:55     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-08 22:22       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-09  8:35         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-09 22:17         ` Rob Herring
2022-11-10 11:35           ` Hector Martin
2022-11-10 11:48           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-10 14:00             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-10 14:14               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-10 14:21                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-10 14:23                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-10 14:36                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-10 14:43                       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-14 10:05           ` Lee Jones
2022-11-08 22:30     ` Rob Herring
2022-11-08 16:33   ` [PATCH v3 4/7] platform/apple: Add new Apple Mac SMC driver Russell King
2022-11-08 16:33   ` [PATCH v3 5/7] arm64: dts: apple: Add SMC node to t8103 devicetrees Russell King
2022-11-08 16:33   ` [PATCH v3 6/7] dt-bindings: gpio: add binding for the GPIO block for Apple Mac SMC Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-08 20:56     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-08 22:09       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-09  7:31         ` Hector Martin
2022-11-09  8:36         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-09  9:12           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-09  9:19             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-08 22:30     ` Rob Herring
2022-11-08 16:33   ` [PATCH v3 7/7] gpio: Add new gpio-macsmc driver for Apple Macs Russell King

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