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From: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>
To: Quentin Schulz <quentin.schulz@theobroma-systems.com>
Cc: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
	Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, kernel@pengutronix.de,
	Michael Riesch <michael.riesch@wolfvision.net>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] dt-bindings: pinctrl: rockchip: Add io domain properties
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2023 12:19:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230906101909.GB492117@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5166ca75-5454-8f64-4f61-fcc0f7a4c235@theobroma-systems.com>

On Wed, Sep 06, 2023 at 10:20:26AM +0200, Quentin Schulz wrote:
> Sascha, Robin,
> 
> On 9/5/23 11:03, Robin Murphy wrote:
> > [You don't often get email from robin.murphy@arm.com. Learn why this is
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> > 
> > > +        type: boolean
> > > +        description:
> > > +          If true assume that the io domain needed for this pin
> > > group has been
> > > +          configured correctly by the bootloader. This is needed to
> > > break cyclic
> > > +          dependencies introduced when a io domain needs a
> > > regulator that can be
> > > +          accessed through pins configured here.
> > 
> > This is describing a Linux implementation detail, not the binding
> > itself. There's no technical reason a DT consumer couldn't already
> > figure this much out from the existing topology (by observing that the
> > pinctrl consumer is a grandparent of the I/O domain's supply).
> > 
> 
> I am guessing you're suggesting to have some complex handling in the driver
> to detect those cyclic dependencies and ignore the IO domain dependency for
> the pinctrl pins where this happens?

I haven't read this as a suggestion, but only as an argument to make it
clear that I should describe the binding rather than anticipating
how it should be used.

I may have misunderstood it though.

> One of the issues we're having here too is that we lose granularity. There
> are multiple domains inside an IO domain device and here we make the whole
> pinctrl device depend on all domains from one IO domain device (there can be
> multiple ones) while it is factually (on the HW level) only dependent on one
> domain. Considering (if I remember correctly) Heiko highly suggested we
> think about adding child nodes to the IO domain devices to have a DT node
> per domain in the IO domain device, how would this work with the suggested
> DT binding?

I started implementing that. I have moved the IO domains into subnodes
of the IO domain controller and started adding phandles from the pin
groups in rk3568-pinctrl.dtsi to the corresponding IO domains. After a
couple of hours I had phandles for around a quarter of the existing
groups of only one SoC, so doing this for all SoCs would really be a
cumbersome job.

In the end I realized this doesn't solve any problem. Also adding the
properties I suggested doesn't prevent us from adding the more specific
dependencies from the pins to their actual IO domains later.

Sascha

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-06 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-04 11:58 [PATCH 0/3] Make Rockchip IO domains dependency from other devices explicit Sascha Hauer
2023-09-04 11:58 ` [PATCH 1/3] pinctrl: rockchip: add support for io-domain dependency Sascha Hauer
2023-09-12  8:06   ` Linus Walleij
2023-09-13  1:37     ` Saravana Kannan
2023-09-13  4:37     ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-09-13  6:58       ` Sascha Hauer
2023-09-13 20:48         ` Saravana Kannan
2023-09-15  6:51           ` Sascha Hauer
2023-09-15 16:38             ` Quentin Schulz
2023-09-15 17:24               ` Robin Murphy
2023-09-20 22:00             ` Saravana Kannan
2023-09-21 13:57               ` Sascha Hauer
2023-09-21 20:49                 ` Saravana Kannan
2023-09-22 11:04                   ` Sascha Hauer
2023-09-16  4:59           ` Samuel Holland
2023-09-15 14:45         ` Rob Herring
2023-09-04 11:58 ` [PATCH 2/3] dt-bindings: pinctrl: rockchip: Add io domain properties Sascha Hauer
2023-09-05  9:03   ` Robin Murphy
2023-09-06  7:21     ` Sascha Hauer
2023-09-07 16:35       ` Robin Murphy
2023-09-08  7:20         ` Sascha Hauer
2023-09-06  8:20     ` Quentin Schulz
2023-09-06 10:19       ` Sascha Hauer [this message]
2023-09-07 16:47         ` Robin Murphy
2023-09-05 18:14   ` Rob Herring
2023-09-06  8:27     ` Quentin Schulz
2023-09-04 11:58 ` [PATCH 3/3] arm64: dts: rockchip: rock-3a: add " Sascha Hauer
2023-09-05 11:34 ` [PATCH 0/3] Make Rockchip IO domains dependency from other devices explicit Jonas Karlman

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