From: Markus Pargmann <mpa@pengutronix.de>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@gmail.com>,
"linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org" <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>,
Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>,
Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Michael Welling <mwelling@ieee.org>,
Amit Kucheria <amit.kucheria@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] GPIO character device skeleton
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2015 08:39:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2109736.Oi4ERkUO0L@adelgunde> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151101024144.GF28319@sirena.org.uk>
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On Sunday 01 November 2015 11:41:44 Mark Brown wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 08:47:14PM +0100, Linus Walleij wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 2:55 AM, Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > * For all the justified hate that sysfs got, it had the advantage of
> > > being directly accessible using only the shell. If we replace it with
> > > a character device interface, I think we will need a "libgpio" (that
> > > provides easy access to C programs) and "gpio-tools" (simple
> > > command-line tools that provide functionality similar to the sysfs
> > > interface). Are we ready to start and maintain these? Granted, it
> > > should not be too much work, but it's still an extra.
>
> > I think the raw ioctl()s will be simple enough and intend to use
> > the tools/gpio/* as proper examples. If we need
> > tools/gpio/swiss-army-knife.c we will add it too.
>
> > ALSA and fbdev and MESA and libusb spawned huge userspace
> > libs, but I hope this ioctl() ABI will be simple enough that apps
> > can use it directly without a lib. But what do I know.
>
> That only works for very C like languages, for other languages (things
> like scripting languages in particular) you're going to need a library
> for the language to bind to in order to be usable.
I think we need real gpio userspace tools for such a chardev interface and not
only a library. On the one hand there are all the kernel/userspace developers
that just want to test stuff. On the other hand there are really a lot of
people that are using small embedded devices (e.g. beaglebone, raspberry pi,
...) for really simple applications like using GPIOs to control something. I am
sure many of them are just using some really simple bash code to reach their
goals.
Best Regards,
Markus
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Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-22 8:32 [PATCH 0/6] GPIO character device skeleton Linus Walleij
2015-10-22 8:32 ` [PATCH 1/6] gpio: make the gpiochip a real device Linus Walleij
2015-10-24 18:09 ` Markus Pargmann
2015-10-25 7:06 ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-26 2:12 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-03 21:20 ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-02 10:31 ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-02 12:25 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-02 12:43 ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-02 12:47 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-02 12:53 ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-02 13:06 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-02 13:14 ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-02 13:17 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-02 13:25 ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-03 21:24 ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-04 10:48 ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-05 9:44 ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-05 10:29 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-16 14:27 ` Linus Walleij
2015-12-03 14:04 ` Linus Walleij
2015-12-03 14:06 ` Linus Walleij
2015-12-03 21:26 ` Michael Welling
2015-12-04 22:31 ` Michael Welling
2015-12-11 17:58 ` Linus Walleij
2015-12-08 9:29 ` Johan Hovold
2015-12-11 18:06 ` Linus Walleij
2015-10-22 8:32 ` [PATCH 2/6] gpio: refer to gpio device in prints and debugfs Linus Walleij
2015-10-22 8:32 ` [PATCH 3/6] gpio: add a userspace chardev ABI for GPIOs Linus Walleij
2015-10-22 20:35 ` Michael Welling
2015-10-24 0:30 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-01-28 11:13 ` Linus Walleij
2015-10-26 1:34 ` Mark Brown
2016-01-27 10:05 ` Bamvor Zhang Jian
2016-01-28 11:14 ` Linus Walleij
2016-01-29 10:24 ` Bamvor Zhang Jian
2016-02-10 10:04 ` Linus Walleij
2015-10-22 8:32 ` [PATCH 4/6] tools/gpio: create GPIO tools Linus Walleij
2015-10-25 8:23 ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-22 8:32 ` [PATCH 5/6] gpio: add a userspace character device ABI Linus Walleij
2015-10-24 18:46 ` Markus Pargmann
2015-10-22 8:32 ` [PATCH 6/6] gpio: ABI: mark the sysfs ABI as obsolete Linus Walleij
2015-10-22 18:57 ` [PATCH 0/6] GPIO character device skeleton Michael Welling
2015-10-24 17:53 ` Markus Pargmann
2015-10-30 14:40 ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-02 10:00 ` Johan Hovold
2015-10-24 18:42 ` Markus Pargmann
2015-10-30 1:55 ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-30 19:48 ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-02 10:13 ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-03 7:23 ` Markus Pargmann
2015-11-03 12:06 ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-03 17:18 ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-04 19:44 ` Michael Welling
2015-11-05 9:40 ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-05 14:11 ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-06 10:21 ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-16 13:33 ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-03 17:05 ` Linus Walleij
2015-10-30 14:43 ` Linus Walleij
2015-10-30 22:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-01 9:37 ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-02 10:16 ` Johan Hovold
2015-10-26 2:18 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-30 1:55 ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-30 19:47 ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-01 2:41 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-03 7:39 ` Markus Pargmann [this message]
2015-11-03 8:50 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-03 10:21 ` Amit Kucheria
2015-11-03 17:06 ` Linus Walleij
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