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From: "Nuno Sá" <noname.nuno@gmail.com>
To: "Andy Shevchenko" <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	"Nuno Sá" <nuno.sa@analog.com>
Cc: linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
	Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
	Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] add support for bias pull-disable
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 09:09:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <62ccf0c91d32df557a2bc91c45adb45593302534.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ys8DPCzRa1qo2AKJ@smile.fi.intel.com>

On Wed, 2022-07-13 at 20:39 +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 03:14:17PM +0200, Nuno Sá wrote:
> > The gpio core looks at 'FLAG_BIAS_DISABLE' in preparation of
> > calling the
> > gpiochip 'set_config()' hook. However, AFAICT, there's no way that
> > this
> > flag is set because there's no support for it in firwmare code.
> > Moreover,
> > in 'gpiod_configure_flags()', only pull-ups and pull-downs are
> > being
> > handled.
> 
> Isn't it enough?
> 

I might be missing something but don't think so. Look at this driver
which seems a lot like the reference i put in the cover:

https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.19-rc6/source/drivers/gpio/gpio-pca953x.c#L573

I just don't see an in-kernel path (I'm aware now that we can get here
through gpio cdev) to get to the point where we want to disable the pin
BIAS.

> > On top of this, there are some users that are looking at
> > 'PIN_CONFIG_BIAS_DISABLE' in the 'set_config()' hook. So, unless
> > I'm
> > missing something, it looks like this was never working for these
> > chips.
> 
> It seems you are looking into wrong source of issues. Isn't it a
> issue of
> particular pin control driver?
> 
> 
> 

Think about gpio expanders on, eg, an i2c bus which don't really have
any pinmuxing capability [1]. For example, my device is an i2c keyboard
which has the capability of exposing pins as gpios (to be consumed by
gpio_keys). The pins, by default are PULL-UPs but we can disable them
doing an i2c write on the device. So to me, the way to do it is via the
gpiochip 'set_config()' hook but as things are, there's no way to get
into the callback with 'PIN_CONFIG_BIAS_DISABLE'. And the driver cannot
just assume that the default case is to disable bias...

Now taking your words (on patch 1 comments)

"
To me it seems superfluous. You have already two flags:
PUp
PDown
When none is set --> Pdisable
"

I guess we could do that assumption in 'gpiod_configure_flags()' and
extend the following code:


if (lflags & GPIO_PULL_UP)
	set_bit(FLAG_PULL_UP, &desc->flags);
else if (lflags & GPIO_PULL_DOWN)
	set_bit(FLAG_PULL_DOWN, &desc->flags);

with an else clause where we do 'set_bit(FLAG_BIAS_DISABLE, &desc-
>flags)' by default. As gpiolib does not consider '-ENOTSUPP' as an
error, this would not "explicitly" break existing drivers.

But I do have some concerns with making such an assumption. This
*might* change behavior on existing systems. Think on a system using
for example gpio-pca953x I linked before. If the default state of the
pins is PULL-UP (or down), it's legit to think that, for example,
devicetrees of such a system are not explicitly setting 'GPIO_PULL_UP'.
That's it, this change would break it because now the pins will have
BIAS disabled by default...

Note the above is just me speculating but might be a valid concern.
 
1: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/ede033e1e863c


- Nuno Sá

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-14  7:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-13 13:14 [PATCH 0/4] add support for bias pull-disable Nuno Sá
2022-07-13 13:14 ` [PATCH 1/4] gpiolib: add support for bias pull disable Nuno Sá
2022-07-13 17:36   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-14  4:20     ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-14  7:14       ` Nuno Sá
2022-07-14  8:27         ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-14  8:47           ` Nuno Sá
2022-07-14 12:00             ` Kent Gibson
2022-07-14 13:02               ` Nuno Sá
2022-07-14 15:08                 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-14 15:47                   ` Nuno Sá
2022-07-18 10:44     ` Linus Walleij
2022-07-13 13:14 ` [PATCH 2/4] gpiolib: of: support " Nuno Sá
2022-07-18 10:30   ` Linus Walleij
2022-07-13 13:14 ` [PATCH 3/4] gpiolib: acpi: " Nuno Sá
2022-07-18 10:32   ` Linus Walleij
2022-07-18 10:49     ` Nuno Sá
2022-07-18 13:49       ` Linus Walleij
2022-07-18 18:25   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-13 13:14 ` [PATCH 4/4] dt-bindings: gpio: add pull-disable flag Nuno Sá
2022-07-18 10:33   ` Linus Walleij
2022-07-18 20:52   ` Rob Herring
2022-07-13 17:39 ` [PATCH 0/4] add support for bias pull-disable Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-14  7:09   ` Nuno Sá [this message]
2022-07-14  9:12     ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-14  9:49       ` Nuno Sá
2022-07-14 14:58 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-14 15:43   ` Nuno Sá
2022-07-14 18:57     ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-15 10:20       ` Nuno Sá
2022-07-15 12:05         ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-15 12:20           ` Nuno Sá
2022-07-15 19:31             ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2022-07-18  7:51               ` Nuno Sá
2022-07-18 10:29                 ` Linus Walleij
2022-07-18 10:46                   ` Nuno Sá
2022-07-18 10:25               ` Linus Walleij
2022-07-19  8:25 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2022-07-19  8:52   ` Nuno Sá
2022-07-19  9:14     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2022-07-19 10:21       ` Nuno Sá

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