From: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
To: Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Welling <mwelling@ieee.org>,
folkert <folkert@vanheusden.com>,
"linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org" <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Fw: [3.18.3] poll() on gpio pins broken
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 16:52:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACRpkdZBc3ry_0sOVRpwnTHNZ1M7CmHw9Us_XPen3pQQP0OazA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAVeFuJ+T-4ew+ACJpestMtH4D+ggcwOD3SumAwYNO5yGT=jiQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It really comes down to how user-space wants to access GPIOs. I
>>> suspect the majority of sysfs accesses is done by scripts and other
>>> simple programs. If we introduce a char device that takes requires
>>> ioctls, it is then customary to add a small user-space library to
>>> abstract that (for both convenience and safety - think libdrm). Do we
>>> want to maintain libgpio?
>>
>> Good point.
>>
>> We have no clue about how the majority out there use the GPIO
>> sysfs, but I have heard of mission-critical systems just hammering
>> GPIOs from userspace.
>>
>> Sadly many of these industrial users are "I just want it to work, now"
>> types and they don't step forward much on these mailing lists.
>> (Learned from private conversations...)
>>
>> Maybe if noone voice their opinion and offer to help with this, we can
>> assume they don't exist (well obviously a community does not exist)
>> and their specific needs be ignored until they put their money where
>> their mouth is.
>
> That's the only way we can handle the situation if people don't
> manifest their needs. But does this mean that you would agree with a
> cleaner, multi-GPIO friendly sysfs-based solution, or I am
> misunderstanding you?
I guess I'm just a bit grumpy.
Whoever comes up with a cleaner sysfs or a clean device interface
will win the argument and lock the path for the other approach.
It's like a forking path with no going back or something.
Yours,
Linus Walleij
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-09 15:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-29 15:29 Fw: [3.18.3] poll() on gpio pins broken folkert
2015-01-30 23:45 ` Michael Welling
2015-01-31 8:33 ` folkert
2015-01-31 13:39 ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-01-31 13:53 ` folkert
2015-02-03 9:03 ` Michael Welling
2015-02-13 3:43 ` Linus Walleij
2015-02-19 8:53 ` folkert
2015-02-19 16:52 ` Linus Walleij
2015-02-26 10:27 ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-02-27 13:15 ` Linus Walleij
2015-02-27 13:19 ` folkert
2015-03-02 6:20 ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-03-02 6:16 ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-03-02 7:27 ` Michael Welling
2015-03-03 8:27 ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-03-03 10:31 ` Linus Walleij
2015-03-04 12:43 ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-03-09 15:52 ` Linus Walleij [this message]
2015-03-09 19:02 ` folkert
2015-03-09 20:22 ` Michael Welling
2015-03-17 16:39 ` Linus Walleij
2015-03-17 16:47 ` Michael Welling
2015-03-19 8:30 ` Linus Walleij
2015-02-26 10:29 ` Alexandre Courbot
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