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From: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
To: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
Cc: "linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org" <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Michael Welling <mwelling@ieee.org>,
	Markus Pargmann <mpa@pengutronix.de>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Amit Kucheria <amit.kucheria@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] gpio: make the gpiochip a real device
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 15:27:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACRpkdavyg8f8fWoQBQCqRAJKxiZDiC72QDSsWjbk1b1v=u3Lw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151105094411.GD7561@localhost>

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 11:48:47AM +0100, Linus Walleij wrote:

>> Thinking about it maybe it's simplest to just make ->dev a pointer
>> and kzalloc() it at gpiochip_add().
>>
>> That should solve this.

Turns out that it's a bad idea to have a struct device as pointer because
it makes it impossible to use container_of() in e.g. .remove.

> You'd avoid ever reregistering the same struct device, but that would
> not solve the bigger life-time issue by itself.

Since device_del() unconditionally kills off the devince from the system
this is equivalent to saying device_add() and device_del() should really
not be used by subsystems, am I right?

Right now there is a cryptic comment in device_del() that says it should
"only be used if device_add() was also used manually" I wonder who this
man is that is using things manually inside the kernel, I guess it actually
means they must be paired.

If I don't use device_add()/device_del(), I see this must mean I have to use
device_register()/device_unregister() as the latter only decrease the refcount
and wait for the instance to die off.

So am I reading it correctly if I understand that this is what we should be
doing? I.e device_register()/device_unregister() and then wait for the
.remove() call to do its deed, so the kobj/struct device is kept around if
e.g. sysfs or the chardev has open files.

(It makes sense. Harder to code up, but makes sense.)

Yours,
Linus Walleij

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-11-16 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-22  8:32 [PATCH 0/6] GPIO character device skeleton Linus Walleij
2015-10-22  8:32 ` [PATCH 1/6] gpio: make the gpiochip a real device Linus Walleij
2015-10-24 18:09   ` Markus Pargmann
2015-10-25  7:06   ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-26  2:12     ` Mark Brown
2015-11-03 21:20     ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-02 10:31   ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-02 12:25     ` Mark Brown
2015-11-02 12:43       ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-02 12:47         ` Mark Brown
2015-11-02 12:53           ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-02 13:06             ` Mark Brown
2015-11-02 13:14               ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-02 13:17                 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-02 13:25                   ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-03 21:24     ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-04 10:48       ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-05  9:44         ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-05 10:29           ` Mark Brown
2015-11-16 14:27           ` Linus Walleij [this message]
2015-12-03 14:04             ` Linus Walleij
2015-12-03 14:06               ` Linus Walleij
2015-12-03 21:26                 ` Michael Welling
2015-12-04 22:31                 ` Michael Welling
2015-12-11 17:58                   ` Linus Walleij
2015-12-08  9:29               ` Johan Hovold
2015-12-11 18:06                 ` Linus Walleij
2015-10-22  8:32 ` [PATCH 2/6] gpio: refer to gpio device in prints and debugfs Linus Walleij
2015-10-22  8:32 ` [PATCH 3/6] gpio: add a userspace chardev ABI for GPIOs Linus Walleij
2015-10-22 20:35   ` Michael Welling
2015-10-24  0:30   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-01-28 11:13     ` Linus Walleij
2015-10-26  1:34   ` Mark Brown
2016-01-27 10:05   ` Bamvor Zhang Jian
2016-01-28 11:14     ` Linus Walleij
2016-01-29 10:24       ` Bamvor Zhang Jian
2016-02-10 10:04         ` Linus Walleij
2015-10-22  8:32 ` [PATCH 4/6] tools/gpio: create GPIO tools Linus Walleij
2015-10-25  8:23   ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-22  8:32 ` [PATCH 5/6] gpio: add a userspace character device ABI Linus Walleij
2015-10-24 18:46   ` Markus Pargmann
2015-10-22  8:32 ` [PATCH 6/6] gpio: ABI: mark the sysfs ABI as obsolete Linus Walleij
2015-10-22 18:57 ` [PATCH 0/6] GPIO character device skeleton Michael Welling
2015-10-24 17:53 ` Markus Pargmann
2015-10-30 14:40   ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-02 10:00     ` Johan Hovold
2015-10-24 18:42 ` Markus Pargmann
2015-10-30  1:55   ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-30 19:48     ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-02 10:13       ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-03  7:23         ` Markus Pargmann
2015-11-03 12:06           ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-03 17:18             ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-04 19:44               ` Michael Welling
2015-11-05  9:40               ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-05 14:11                 ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-06 10:21                   ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-16 13:33                     ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-03 17:05           ` Linus Walleij
2015-10-30 14:43   ` Linus Walleij
2015-10-30 22:54     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-01  9:37       ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-02 10:16         ` Johan Hovold
2015-10-26  2:18 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-30  1:55 ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-30 19:47   ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-01  2:41     ` Mark Brown
2015-11-03  7:39       ` Markus Pargmann
2015-11-03  8:50         ` Mark Brown
2015-11-03 10:21           ` Amit Kucheria
2015-11-03 17:06           ` Linus Walleij

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