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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: "Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	"Linus Walleij" <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	"Miquèl Raynal" <miquel.raynal@free-electrons.com>,
	"Nadav Haklai" <nadavh@marvell.com>,
	"linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org" <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Antoine Ténart" <antoine.tenart@free-electrons.com>,
	"Gregory CLEMENT" <gregory.clement@free-electrons.com>,
	"Timur Tabi" <timur@codeaurora.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: linux-next regression caused by "gpiolib: request the gpio before querying its direction"
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 11:50:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdXeWBbSkvwh_hpGhPe_s-GA8BptQPJWG_bu0Ln12N93Aw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170831092211.GP20805@n2100.armlinux.org.uk>

Hi Russell,

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux
<linux@armlinux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 09:30:54AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> > Note that on my side, I've however not been convinced by this semantic:
>> > I find it weird that when you request a GPIO, it gets automatically
>> > muxed as such, without an explicit pinctrl configuration in the DT.
>>
>> On lots of hardware, you first have to select between GPIO and "other
>> function".
>> For "other function", you have to select the actual function later.
>> In that case, switching to a GPIO can be done by flipping a single bit.
>
> What about hardware which you can configure for some alternate function
> but still monitor the pin via GPIO, even though it's not mux'd as GPIO.
>
> For instance, you may have a timer block which can capture on both
> edges of an external event signal, which needs the pin to be muxed for
> that function.  However, you need to read the state of the pin, and
> that is only available through GPIO.  Muxing the pin to be a GPIO just
> because someone requests the GPIO is, imho, ill thought-out and breaks
> some use cases.

Yes, reading from the GPIO can work if the pin is muxed to another function.

> IMHO, the pinmux settings should always be specified in DT, and that's
> what we should be using everywhere, not doing broken backdoor games like
> "the gpio is being requested, it's obvious that we want this pin to be
> a gpio" - that really doesn't follow.

Do we need to specify pinmux setting for pins used by e.g. the SDRAM
controller, which doesn't have a Linux driver?

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-31  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-30  9:24 linux-next regression caused by "gpiolib: request the gpio before querying its direction" Thomas Petazzoni
2017-08-30 12:31 ` Timur Tabi
2017-08-30 13:59   ` Gregory CLEMENT
2017-08-30 14:17     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-08-30 14:22       ` Timur Tabi
2017-08-30 14:32         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-08-30 16:24           ` jmondi
2017-08-30 19:38             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-08-31  7:08       ` Linus Walleij
2017-08-31  7:18         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-08-31  7:30           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-08-31  9:22             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-08-31  9:39               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-08-31 18:39                 ` Timur Tabi
2017-08-31  9:50               ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2017-08-31 13:05                 ` Timur Tabi
2017-08-31 10:08               ` Maxime Ripard
2017-08-31  7:04 ` Linus Walleij

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