From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>,
Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
Alyssa Rosenzweig <alyssa@rosenzweig.io>,
asahi@lists.linux.dev, Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
Hector Martin <marcan@marcan.st>,
linux-arm Mailing List <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
"open list:GPIO SUBSYSTEM" <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>,
Sven Peter <sven@svenpeter.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] gpio: Add new gpio-macsmc driver for Apple Macs
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2022 15:02:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YxYBeMz8nIIA+1P/@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YxYBJcRGCOlcSZH8@shell.armlinux.org.uk>
On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 03:01:09PM +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 04:16:27PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 4:10 PM Russell King (Oracle)
> > <linux@armlinux.org.uk> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 01:32:29PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > Let me say again: I am not changing this. That's for Asahi people to
> > > do if they wish. I am the just middle-man here.
> >
> > While I agree on technical aspects, this mythical "they" is
> > frustrating me. They haven't participated in this discussion (yet?) so
> > they do not care, why should we (as a community of upstream)?
>
> That's strange. I wonder. If they don't exist, then I wonder how Linus
> is running Linux on aarch64 apple hardware. Maybe it's not me with a
> problem here?
>
> Hector has been promising to get involved in this discussion for a few
> days now, his latest comment on IRC yesterday:
>
> 16:23 <@marcan> I'm going to allocate tuesday to playing the merge game (rmk:
> haven't forgotten about you either, IRQs today, but I'll get to
> it before tuesday):
>
> So he is aware that he needs to respond - but like any central project
> lead developer, he's probably exceedingly busy with other issues.
>
> > P.S. Do you have a platform to test all these?
>
> Yes, but that doesn't mean I can do testing sufficient to ensure that
> the modifications are correct. As I understand things, the SMC is not
> limited to just aarch64 hardware.
>
> It doesn't mean that "if it boots it must be okay" is sufficient.
>
> So, how about you stop insisting on changes until Hector can respond
> to some of the questions raised; as I've said many times, you are
> asking for stuff to be changed that is quite clearly in the realm of
> decisions that the Asahi developer(s) have taken, and I have no right
> to change them without reference to them - because I do not know this
> platform well enough to make the decisions you're asking of me.
>
> I'm not going to say that again; I'm going to start ignoring you if
> you persist in demanding that I make these kinds of decisions, because
> *you* leave me no other option but to do that... because *you* just
> don't seem to be willing to accept that I need others to be involved
> in these decisions.
Oh, and another thing. Your behaviour on this is making me regret
trying to get involved in improving the upstream support for this
platform.
--
RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/
FTTP is here! 40Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!
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2022-09-01 13:54 [PATCH 0/6] Add Apple Mac System Management Controller GPIOs Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 13:54 ` [PATCH 1/6] dt-bindings: mfd: add binding for Apple Mac System Management Controller Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 15:06 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-01 15:12 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 15:15 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-01 15:24 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 15:45 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-01 15:56 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 16:25 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-01 16:47 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 22:33 ` Rob Herring
2022-09-02 15:06 ` Mark Kettenis
2022-09-02 17:28 ` Rob Herring
2022-09-05 10:24 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-06 9:04 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-06 9:31 ` Mark Kettenis
2022-09-06 11:22 ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-06 11:36 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-06 11:57 ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-06 13:28 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-06 13:43 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-06 13:53 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-06 14:25 ` Mark Kettenis
2022-09-06 14:54 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-06 15:38 ` Mark Kettenis
2022-09-06 15:55 ` Rob Herring
2022-09-06 13:46 ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-06 15:34 ` Rob Herring
2022-09-06 16:10 ` Rob Herring
2022-09-06 17:00 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-06 17:35 ` Rob Herring
2022-09-06 17:40 ` Sven Peter
2022-09-06 18:38 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-07 9:39 ` Mark Kettenis
2022-09-01 22:26 ` Rob Herring
2022-09-02 14:49 ` Mark Kettenis
2022-09-02 17:04 ` Rob Herring
2022-09-01 19:14 ` Rob Herring
2022-09-01 13:54 ` [PATCH 2/6] dt-bindings: gpio: add binding for the GPIO block for Apple Mac SMC Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 15:11 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-01 15:14 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 13:54 ` [PATCH 3/6] soc: apple: rtkit: Add apple_rtkit_poll Russell King
2022-09-01 17:00 ` Sven Peter
2022-09-01 17:25 ` Eric Curtin
2022-09-01 13:54 ` [PATCH 4/6] platform/apple: Add new Apple Mac SMC driver Russell King
2022-09-01 17:50 ` Sven Peter
2022-09-05 10:55 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 16:53 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-01 19:26 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 6:45 ` Sven Peter
2022-09-05 14:45 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-05 15:00 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-08 10:58 ` Lee Jones
2022-09-08 11:28 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-08 12:31 ` Lee Jones
2022-09-08 12:58 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-08 13:29 ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-08 13:36 ` Lee Jones
2022-09-08 13:58 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-09 7:50 ` Lee Jones
2022-09-12 10:03 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-12 10:55 ` Lee Jones
2022-10-28 15:36 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-10-31 8:46 ` Lee Jones
2022-10-31 9:03 ` Hector Martin
2022-10-31 9:44 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-10-31 17:24 ` Lee Jones
2022-10-31 19:47 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-01 9:59 ` Lee Jones
2022-10-29 6:40 ` Hector Martin
2022-10-31 8:48 ` Lee Jones
2022-10-31 8:58 ` Hector Martin
2022-10-31 9:29 ` Lee Jones
2022-10-31 9:44 ` Hector Martin
2022-10-31 17:23 ` Lee Jones
2022-10-31 19:34 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-02 13:12 ` Lee Jones
2022-11-02 15:54 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 13:54 ` [PATCH 5/6] gpio: Add new gpio-macsmc driver for Apple Macs Russell King
2022-09-01 18:55 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-01 21:51 ` Martin Povišer
2022-09-02 6:31 ` Andy Shevchenko
[not found] ` <3B649A66-8116-432D-B88A-B5CE493EF930@cutebit.org>
[not found] ` <CAHp75VeB3_sZ2vsSxMSsLeJSkyemDh9iOPHXJCN1mhodA13LNQ@mail.gmail.com>
2022-09-02 11:12 ` Martin Povišer
2022-09-02 13:33 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 13:36 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 13:37 ` Martin Povišer
2022-09-02 14:41 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 14:45 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-02 10:05 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-02 10:37 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 11:32 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-02 13:39 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 14:46 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-02 14:53 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 15:34 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-02 15:43 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-05 10:20 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 10:32 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-05 13:10 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 13:16 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-05 14:01 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 14:02 ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2022-09-05 14:42 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-05 14:53 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 14:50 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-05 15:52 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-05 15:56 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 15:32 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 15:44 ` Martin Povišer
2022-09-05 15:58 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-05 16:13 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 19:10 ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-06 6:51 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-05 15:47 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-05 15:39 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-05 15:16 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-05 15:04 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-02 9:42 ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-01 13:54 ` [PATCH 6/6] gpio: macsmc: Add IRQ support Russell King
2022-09-01 18:03 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-05 11:54 ` Russell King (Oracle)
[not found] ` <CAHp75VeDGCp8J6wnmCqGpV++vs2Zur9Mfp71Dk8dVXcuHFnCrQ@mail.gmail.com>
2022-09-05 13:21 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 13:21 ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-05 12:47 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 13:19 ` Fwd: " Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-05 21:43 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 13:27 ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-06 7:00 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-06 7:47 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-06 8:00 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-01 15:12 ` [PATCH 0/6] Add Apple Mac System Management Controller GPIOs Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-10-27 15:35 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-08 16:32 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] " Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-08 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] mfd: Add core Apple Mac SMC driver Russell King
2022-11-14 9:52 ` Lee Jones
2022-11-14 10:35 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-11-08 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] lib/vsprintf: Add support for generic FOURCCs by extending %p4cc Russell King
2022-11-14 15:34 ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-14 15:46 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-11-14 16:18 ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-14 16:15 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-14 16:46 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-22 12:43 ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-22 14:49 ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-08 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] dt-bindings: mfd: add binding for Apple Mac System Management Controller Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-08 20:42 ` Linus Walleij
2022-11-08 20:55 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-08 22:22 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-09 8:35 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-09 22:17 ` Rob Herring
2022-11-10 11:35 ` Hector Martin
2022-11-10 11:48 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-10 14:00 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-10 14:14 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-10 14:21 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-10 14:23 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-10 14:36 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-10 14:43 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-14 10:05 ` Lee Jones
2022-11-08 22:30 ` Rob Herring
2022-11-08 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] platform/apple: Add new Apple Mac SMC driver Russell King
2022-11-08 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] arm64: dts: apple: Add SMC node to t8103 devicetrees Russell King
2022-11-08 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] dt-bindings: gpio: add binding for the GPIO block for Apple Mac SMC Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-08 20:56 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-08 22:09 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-09 7:31 ` Hector Martin
2022-11-09 8:36 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-09 9:12 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-09 9:19 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-08 22:30 ` Rob Herring
2022-11-08 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] gpio: Add new gpio-macsmc driver for Apple Macs Russell King
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