From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830A7ECAAD3 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2022 14:02:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S238180AbiIEOCk (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Sep 2022 10:02:40 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:48174 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S237156AbiIEOCj (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Sep 2022 10:02:39 -0400 Received: from pandora.armlinux.org.uk (pandora.armlinux.org.uk [IPv6:2001:4d48:ad52:32c8:5054:ff:fe00:142]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D1CFEE3D for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2022 07:02:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=armlinux.org.uk; s=pandora-2019; h=Sender:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=6nD8r+soMMVyYwzQ8ybqIyhrtbjhOKYJGK6md0qHUr8=; b=e7XdnADFSBOcFdR09W/RUtPoyA Bqk8ZxbnBnNRmXl9Fzg7hectEkn0jh3PInvSi17qrc5bJlGybLxCBaFWXY2g9x7DR/17FIV/r0BMG DHOlNYCq1+W8Xa+es9+qAyRPkqVAwQzKxUzQrWuMa6P0TL0+qgqYteQiD+UxcLL2L2t5bJWV51aNM fbqub5p50qz959UbZ26rcmTa2YUM5iQOstpZTW1euulGFItIIJqlyE1o2t5kW55pytK0yPQZBiz5L pLs00+HwdYts4O01rct42qvk+sBAqmRj6gje4YxnzlJoQthcvB+l5dNc8Xxe3bMc8s2SrgWLPS8xS 3osw8WAw==; Received: from shell.armlinux.org.uk ([fd8f:7570:feb6:1:5054:ff:fe00:4ec]:34116) by pandora.armlinux.org.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1oVCgL-0002RG-6T; Mon, 05 Sep 2022 15:02:33 +0100 Received: from linux by shell.armlinux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1oVCgK-0007L5-IG; Mon, 05 Sep 2022 15:02:32 +0100 Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2022 15:02:32 +0100 From: "Russell King (Oracle)" To: Andy Shevchenko Cc: Arnd Bergmann , Lee Jones , Linus Walleij , Alyssa Rosenzweig , asahi@lists.linux.dev, Bartosz Golaszewski , Hector Martin , linux-arm Mailing List , "open list:GPIO SUBSYSTEM" , Sven Peter Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] gpio: Add new gpio-macsmc driver for Apple Macs Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Sender: Russell King (Oracle) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 03:01:09PM +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote: > On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 04:16:27PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 4:10 PM Russell King (Oracle) > > wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 01:32:29PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > Let me say again: I am not changing this. That's for Asahi people to > > > do if they wish. I am the just middle-man here. > > > > While I agree on technical aspects, this mythical "they" is > > frustrating me. They haven't participated in this discussion (yet?) so > > they do not care, why should we (as a community of upstream)? > > That's strange. I wonder. If they don't exist, then I wonder how Linus > is running Linux on aarch64 apple hardware. Maybe it's not me with a > problem here? > > Hector has been promising to get involved in this discussion for a few > days now, his latest comment on IRC yesterday: > > 16:23 <@marcan> I'm going to allocate tuesday to playing the merge game (rmk: > haven't forgotten about you either, IRQs today, but I'll get to > it before tuesday): > > So he is aware that he needs to respond - but like any central project > lead developer, he's probably exceedingly busy with other issues. > > > P.S. Do you have a platform to test all these? > > Yes, but that doesn't mean I can do testing sufficient to ensure that > the modifications are correct. As I understand things, the SMC is not > limited to just aarch64 hardware. > > It doesn't mean that "if it boots it must be okay" is sufficient. > > So, how about you stop insisting on changes until Hector can respond > to some of the questions raised; as I've said many times, you are > asking for stuff to be changed that is quite clearly in the realm of > decisions that the Asahi developer(s) have taken, and I have no right > to change them without reference to them - because I do not know this > platform well enough to make the decisions you're asking of me. > > I'm not going to say that again; I'm going to start ignoring you if > you persist in demanding that I make these kinds of decisions, because > *you* leave me no other option but to do that... because *you* just > don't seem to be willing to accept that I need others to be involved > in these decisions. Oh, and another thing. Your behaviour on this is making me regret trying to get involved in improving the upstream support for this platform. -- RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/ FTTP is here! 40Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!