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From: Jonas Jelonek <jelonek.jonas@gmail.com>
To: Peter Rosin <peda@axentia.se>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>
Cc: linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] gpio: add gpio-line-mux driver
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 09:26:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a7b6b606-4b2c-4dcf-bd79-23711dd97b71@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bad968a4-37e6-655e-711f-c647becbba5a@axentia.se>

Hi Peter,

On 27.10.25 08:51, Peter Rosin wrote:
>> +static int gpio_lmux_gpio_get(struct gpio_chip *gc, unsigned int offset)
>> +{
>> +	struct gpio_lmux *glm = (struct gpio_lmux *)gpiochip_get_data(gc);
>> +	int ret;
>> +
>> +	if (offset > gc->ngpio)
>> +		return -EINVAL;
>> +
>> +	guard(gpio_lmux)(glm);
>> +
>> +	ret = mux_control_select(glm->mux, glm->gpio_mux_states[offset]);
> Consider using mux_control_select_delay() here, with some suitable
> delay, to allow the mux to settle before reading the gpio line.

Thanks, will fix this.
> This .set implementation is completely broken. It you want to
> set a gpio to outout high/low, you presumably want the gpio to
> stay that way for at least some period of time, while whatever
> else happens that relies on the gpio to be in that state. But in
> this case only the mux select/deselect is protecting that gpio
> state, which is bound to be inadequate for anything real.
>
> Sure, you can probably build something trivial and see that the
> gpio can be manipulated, but the second something else touches
> the mux, the intended state of an output gpio line is
> (potentially) clobbered.
>
> I notice that in your target application, the sfp driver, all
> uses of gpios via the mux are inputs. Input is a much easier
> problem. At least as long as you do not require IRQ, if you
> need IRQs you face similar problems where the mux needs to be
> locked in its position for whatever period of time you can
> expect IRQs.

Yes, that why I left IRQs out here, but somehow I didn't properly
transfer that I have similar issues with output functionality.

>
> TL;DR, this .set implementation needs to be removed, there is
> simply no reasonable way to implement a muxed gpio .set in a
> pure software driver. You need some hardware to preserve the
> state if/when the mux is manipulated.

I see, thanks for pointing it out! I'll drop this in the next iteration
then and make this driver input-only.

> Cheers,
> Peter
>

Best,
Jonas

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-27  8:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-26 23:17 [PATCH v2 0/2] add gpio-line-mux Jonas Jelonek
2025-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] dt-bindings: gpio: add gpio-line-mux controller Jonas Jelonek
2025-10-27 11:39   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-10-27 11:47     ` Jonas Jelonek
2025-10-27 13:32   ` Rob Herring
2025-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] gpio: add gpio-line-mux driver Jonas Jelonek
2025-10-27  7:51   ` Peter Rosin
2025-10-27  8:26     ` Jonas Jelonek [this message]
2025-10-28  9:45   ` Thomas Richard
2025-10-28 10:09     ` Peter Rosin
2025-10-28 10:22       ` Thomas Richard
2025-11-04 14:57     ` Jonas Jelonek

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