From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Marius Petrescu" Subject: RE: AX25 and related software's future in Debian Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 03:04:34 +0300 Message-ID: <005401cd3a09$f7685920$e6390b60$@ro> References: <20120504013200.GB3489@flying-gecko.net> <201205231215.27327.wjl@icecavern.net> <9C404E2E-1574-4F0C-8286-AE1E8CA7AD0D@colliertech.org> <20120524083356.13672istfyl94790@horde.mgtmail.com> <000901cd3a01$a9811600$fc834200$@ro> <20120524192958.93234be29ww8p37a@horde.mgtmail.com> <005101cd3a09$adef9a10$09cece30$@ro> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <005101cd3a09$adef9a10$09cece30$@ro> Content-Language: en-us Sender: linux-hams-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: 'Marius Petrescu' , "'IT1 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR'" Cc: linux-hams@vger.kernel.org Grrr. Let me rephrase that. Some people in the Debian group wanted to use the name NODE for a java script package currently called node.js. -----Original Message----- From: linux-hams-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-hams-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Marius Petrescu Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 03:03 To: 'IT1 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR' Cc: linux-hams@vger.kernel.org Subject: RE: AX25 and related software's future in Debian What I said was ironic (probably not enough). I use those tools and I am happy with them. Just some people in the Debian group were bothered by the fact that some wannabe script pack wants to use the name node.... And than it jumped over to the whole ham radio stuff. Marius, YO2LOJ -----Original Message----- From: linux-hams-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-hams-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of IT1 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 02:30 To: Marius Petrescu Cc: linux-hams@vger.kernel.org Subject: RE: AX25 and related software's future in Debian Marius, Excuse me but the ham radio apps work just fine for me, so long as nobody deletes them from distribution. I don't need no stink'in GUI! If I did, I'd have given up on Linux and Unix Administration a long time ago and become a Windows weenie. However, I have always chosen to take the same posture that my maid does, "I DO NOT DO WINDOWS!" And if Ham Radio is an obscure activity it is because how many talks were given on Amateur Radio at Schmoocon? At DEFCON? At places where the hacking and technical communities stand in congress together? Perhaps the issue is marketing. When last I went to DEFCON I saw an OVERCROWD of people waiting to learn how to pick a lock, pick a lock I said! Had a decent Ham Radio setup been there, with HF, Packet, Amateur TV, etc... we'd have likely done well at marketing our hobby. Stuart -- IT1 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR, N3GWG (Extra), MROP Las Vegas, NV / Boulder, CO / Philadelphia, PA / Beverly Hills, CA (310) 358-0202 Mobile Phone (215) 338-6005 Google Voice e-mail: stuart.tener@bh90210.net Quoting Marius Petrescu : > Please take the effort to remember the whole thread... > > It started because there was a proposal to rename node from the ax25 > suite into something else, so that "newcomer" node.js could be named > node instead. > (What a server side javascript package has with in common with the > name node is still a mistery to me, maybe the authors should calle it > kernel since the name and function seems to be irelevant and unrelated > in their opinion...) > > And the idea behind distros like Ubuntu is not about having or not the > ax25 package in the distribution, but the issue of CONSISTENCY. It is > really idiotic to have "node" an ax25 node communication software as a > package in one distro (e.g. Ubuntu) and in another one to have "node" > a java script package (talking about Debian where the discussion started). > Remember this happened before: axmail was just overrun by some After > Logic XMail, without any hesitations. But this seems to be the trend... > For "the clicking generation", ham radio is an obscure activity which > just can be trampled down since it does not result in nice pictures on > a device with an bitten fruit on it, and packet radio just some > obsolete non-important stuff that can be ignored (Duhhhh, ever heard > of 3G and HSDPA? > Why would you want to use that?). > > But again maybe this is a signal to get some fresh wind into ham radio > apps, maybe ax.25 in its current concept is really obsolete. And in > this case we need to do something about it. Making it maybe a little > more "clickable"... > > Marius, YO2LOJ > proud user of ax.25 > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-hams" > in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo > info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-hams" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-hams" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html