From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "David A. Ranch" Subject: Fldigi and RTTY decodes Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 18:01:29 -0700 Message-ID: <4AA309E9.3040004@trinnet.net> References: <9923fd660908310727o354e03dqaf90abe05b4ea800@mail.gmail.com> <1251842807.8971.1.camel@w8iss-desktop> <4A9DA743.9090101@radagast.org> <20090905160400.GH3807@mea-ext.zmailer.org> <4AA2AA78.5000605@radagast.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <4AA2AA78.5000605@radagast.org> Sender: linux-hams-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Linux-Hams Hello Everyone, I'm a new HAM but not new to Linux. I've been using Fldigi for monitoring BPSK31, etc. with good luck but I've been finding that RTTY rarely works. It maybe decodes 10% of the time even with a strong signal. It also seems the good decodes are specific to a given remote handle's QSO. I stumbled upon something today which I bet has a major impact on the RTTY decoding and I was curious about the group's thoughts. In researching HF Nets, there is the 3950 Century Club's RTTY NET: http://www.3905ccn.com/newsite/netsched.htm In that URL, it specifies LSB *regardless* of the band and they also specify specific "mark tones". In studying for my General ticket, the current ARRL "General Class License Manual" (section 2-12 & 5-5) mentions: - RTTY is usually FSK - the ARRL docs *does* mention the existence of AFSK RTTY to use LSB - Usual RTTY Mark is at 2125hz and Space at 2295 (170hz diff.) Now, looking at the Fldigi docs on RTTY, this is where things become obvious there are issues: http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp/RTTYFSK.html - FLdigi's RTTY is "AFSK is not FSK - All of the modem signals that fldigi produces are audio signals" - they mention a Pseudo FSK-RTTY support mode with a external circuit: http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp/PseudoFSK.html - "You MUST run the radio is USB to have the correct polarity." This conflicts with what the the above Century Net URL and the ARRL docs specify to use LSB. So my questions for the net are: 1. What's more common on the digital bands? FSK RTTY or AFSK RTTY? If it's FSK RTTY, are people using TNCs to do RTTY vs. soundcard-based solutions? 2. Is there a way to determine if a given RTTY transmission is FSK vs. AFSK? I have fairly good ears but maybe it's impossible to hear the difference with background noise? 3. Can FLdigi still decode FSK-based RTTY? Maybe this is only a Tx limitation? 4. Maybe Fldigi's RTTY decode (and maybe CW) isn't so hot. Any recommendations on alternative Linux packages? I'd love to hear other user's thoughts on their favorite Linux apps for HF digital modes (maybe another email thread). --David KI6ZHD