From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Dave Platt Subject: Re: 300bps Packet (and EHAS) - what is pam, psk, and newpsk, Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 22:57:52 -0800 Message-ID: <4CEF5A70.4050600@radagast.org> References: <4CEB5074.2070008@complete.org> <4CEB5C66.1050803@exemail.com.au> <6CE4D96A7B544D30919A49105B458915@LIVINGROOM> <4CEC16EF.8060106@radagast.org> <4CED5B60.5040108@radagast.org> <40C75B79D58C4ECDBC044010559CE8CA@LIVINGROOM> <4CEEB394.3020305@trinnet.net> <4CEF444F.6010308@trinnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <4CEF444F.6010308@trinnet.net> Sender: linux-hams-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Cc: linux-hams@vger.kernel.org > fsk - I know what FSK is but what does it mean in respect to soundmodem? > My Yaesu FT-950 supports an FSK input and my US Interfaces Navigator > device does FSK too but how would soundmodem use it? Seems it's slowest > speed is 4800Bits/sec. FSK is the common way of doing AX.25 packet operations at 9600 baud. In this mode, the voltage coming out of the sound card's line output is fed fairly directly to the modulator in the radio... a positive voltage shifts the RF frequency in one direction, a negative voltage shifts it in the other. This mode of hookup and operation requires a radio-to-rig connection with very good low-frequency response (down to DC or close to it is ideal), and very careful adjustment of the sound-card volume control in order to adjust the maximum signal level (and thus the peak FM deviation) fairly precisely. If I understand correctly, the soundmodem FSK mode (when properly adjusted) should be compatible with the G3RUH 9600-baud modem designs. > pam - what is pam? Sounds to me like Phase and Amplitude Modulation, in which the bits being transmit control both the amplitude and the relative phase of the carrier signal. QAM (quadrature amplitude modulation) is a common form of this... a signal might transmit three or four bits for each symbol, with two bits controlling the relative amount of phase shift from the previous symbol, and another one or two bits controlling the amplitude. I don't know the details of the soundmodem's PAM. From what I see in the code, it appears to be doing some filtering or convolution in the process of converting the bits to the symbols being transmitted, and some maximal-likelihood decoding upon reception. I assume that one would use it as the other modes would be used... set up two soundmodems with compatible configurations and start transmitting, and then see how well it works. > psk - I know what PSK is and I use the BPSK31 mode in Fldigi but what > would soundmodem do with it in respect to a packet mode? See above... > > newqpsk - I know what QPSK is and I've used the QPSK31 mode in Fldigi > (has forms of FEC enabled on it) but what would soundmodem do with it in > respect to a packet mode? Seems it's slowest speed is 1000Bits/sec. This one looks rather interesting, in that it seems to incorporate symbol interleaving and forward error correction. This might make it more robust in the face of some sorts of errors. > I would love to learn what these modes do, are they stable, and maybe > these modes could be used as a strong alternative to trying/failing > 300BAUD HF packet. There's a bit of a gotcha in the regs (in the U.S. at least) in that most HF bands limit data transmissions to baud rates of no more than 300 (or an FSK frequency shift of no more than 1 kHz). Using a 1000 or 1200 baud QPSK would not be permissible on frequencies below 10 meters, I think. An alternative might be to use a multi-carrier HF digital mode - one which sends a bunch of different carriers, each modulated at a relatively low rate. Some of the keyboard-to-keyboard HF digital modes work this way... but I'm not aware of anyone having used those modulations as ways of wrapping an AX.25 or IP packet for HF digital use.