From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.2 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6DD8C4363D for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2020 14:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8866320760 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2020 14:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726139AbgJFOVd (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Oct 2020 10:21:33 -0400 Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]:35393 "HELO mother.openwall.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1725947AbgJFOVd (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Oct 2020 10:21:33 -0400 Received: (qmail 11592 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2020 14:21:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO pvt.openwall.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Oct 2020 14:21:31 -0000 Received: by pvt.openwall.com (Postfix, from userid 503) id 6392FAB844; Tue, 6 Oct 2020 16:21:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 16:21:27 +0200 From: Solar Designer To: Kees Cook Cc: Jann Horn , "Theodore Y. Ts'o" , Kernel Hardening , linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Linux-specific kernel hardening Message-ID: <20201006142127.GA10613@openwall.com> References: <202009281907.946FBE7B@keescook> <20200929192517.GA2718@openwall.com> <202009291558.04F4D35@keescook> <20200930090232.GA5067@openwall.com> <20201005141456.GA6528@openwall.com> <20201005160255.GA4540@mit.edu> <20201005164818.GA6878@openwall.com> <202010051538.55725193C7@keescook> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <202010051538.55725193C7@keescook> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Oct 05, 2020 at 03:39:26PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote: > On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 at 12:26:50AM +0200, Jann Horn wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 6:48 PM Solar Designer wrote: > > > If 100% of the topics on linux-hardening are supposed to be a subset of > > > what was on kernel-hardening, I think it'd be OK for me to provide the > > > subscriber list to a vger admin, who would subscribe those people to > > > linux-hardening. > > > > (if folks want to go that route, probably easier to subscribe the list > > linux-hardening@ itself to kernel-hardening@ instead of syncing > > subscriber lists?) > > Yeah, that would make things a bit simpler. Solar, would you be willing > to do that? (Then I can tweak the wiki instructions a bit more.) Sure, I can do that. Should I? Per http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-hardening there are currently 39 subscribers on the new list. I guess most of those are also on kernel-hardening, and would start receiving two copies of messages that are posted to kernel-hardening. I guess they would then need to unsubscribe from kernel-hardening if they want to see the content of both lists, or to unsubscribe from linux-hardening if they changed their mind and only want the content of kernel-hardening. I think this is still not too many people, so this is reasonable; if we were to do it later, we'd inconvenience more people. Alexander