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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: alex.popov@linux.com
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Paul McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] Introduce the pkill_on_warn boot parameter
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 16:31:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210929163143.aa8b70ac9d5cf0b628823370@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d290202d-a72d-0821-9edf-efbecf6f6cef@linux.com>

On Wed, 29 Sep 2021 22:01:33 +0300 Alexander Popov <alex.popov@linux.com> wrote:

> On 29.09.2021 21:58, Alexander Popov wrote:
> > Currently, the Linux kernel provides two types of reaction to kernel
> > warnings:
> >  1. Do nothing (by default),
> >  2. Call panic() if panic_on_warn is set. That's a very strong reaction,
> >     so panic_on_warn is usually disabled on production systems.
> > 
> > From a safety point of view, the Linux kernel misses a middle way of
> > handling kernel warnings:
> >  - The kernel should stop the activity that provokes a warning,
> >  - But the kernel should avoid complete denial of service.
> > 
> > From a security point of view, kernel warning messages provide a lot of
> > useful information for attackers. Many GNU/Linux distributions allow
> > unprivileged users to read the kernel log, so attackers use kernel
> > warning infoleak in vulnerability exploits. See the examples:
> >   https://a13xp0p0v.github.io/2020/02/15/CVE-2019-18683.html
> >   https://a13xp0p0v.github.io/2021/02/09/CVE-2021-26708.html
> > 
> > Let's introduce the pkill_on_warn boot parameter.
> > If this parameter is set, the kernel kills all threads in a process
> > that provoked a kernel warning. This behavior is reasonable from a safety
> > point of view described above. It is also useful for kernel security
> > hardening because the system kills an exploit process that hits a
> > kernel warning.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Alexander Popov <alex.popov@linux.com>
> 
> This patch was tested using CONFIG_LKDTM.
> The kernel kills a process that performs this:
>   echo WARNING > /sys/kernel/debug/provoke-crash/DIRECT
> 
> If you are fine with this approach, I will prepare a patch adding the
> pkill_on_warn sysctl.

Why do we need a boot parameter?  Isn't a sysctl all we need for this
feature?

Also, 

	if (pkill_on_warn && system_state >= SYSTEM_RUNNING)
		do_group_exit(SIGKILL);

- why do we care about system_state?  An explanatory code comment
  seems appropriate.

- do we really want to do this in states > SYSTEM_RUNNING?  If so, why?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-09-29 23:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-29 18:58 [PATCH] Introduce the pkill_on_warn boot parameter Alexander Popov
2021-09-29 19:01 ` Alexander Popov
2021-09-29 19:49   ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-09-30  9:15     ` Petr Mladek
2021-09-30 15:05       ` Alexander Popov
2021-10-01 12:23         ` Petr Mladek
2021-09-30 16:59       ` Steven Rostedt
2021-10-01 12:09         ` Petr Mladek
2021-09-30 18:28       ` Kees Cook
2021-10-01 19:59       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-02 11:41         ` Alexander Popov
2021-10-02 12:13           ` Steven Rostedt
2021-10-02 16:33             ` Alexander Popov
2021-10-02 16:52           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-02 21:05             ` Alexander Popov
2021-10-05 19:48               ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-10-06 14:56                 ` Alexander Popov
2021-10-22 17:30                 ` Alexander Popov
2022-07-27 16:17         ` Alexey Khoroshilov
2022-07-27 16:30           ` Jann Horn
2022-07-27 16:43             ` Alexey Khoroshilov
2022-07-27 16:42           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-27 17:47             ` Alexey Khoroshilov
2021-09-29 23:31   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2021-09-30 18:27     ` Alexander Popov
2021-09-30 18:36       ` Kees Cook
2021-09-29 19:03 ` Dave Hansen
2021-09-29 19:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 20:06   ` Kees Cook
2021-09-30 13:55     ` Alexander Popov
2021-09-30 18:20       ` Kees Cook
2021-10-02 18:04 ` Al Viro
2021-10-02 18:31   ` Steven Rostedt

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