From: Joel Granados <j.granados@samsung.com>
To: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
Cc: "Thomas Weißschuh" <linux@weissschuh.net>,
"Dan Carpenter" <dan.carpenter@linaro.org>,
"Julia Lawall" <julia.lawall@inria.fr>,
"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
"Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavoars@kernel.org>,
"Iurii Zaikin" <yzaikin@google.com>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/18] sysctl: constify sysctl ctl_tables
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2023 13:36:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231221123644.k57uvfmpcrfo4vfk@localhost> (raw)
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On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 01:21:49PM -0800, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> So we can split this up concentually in two:
>
> * constificaiton of the table handlers
> * constification of the table struct itself
>
> On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 11:10:15PM +0100, Thomas Weißschuh wrote:
> > The handlers can already be made const as shown in this series,
>
> The series did already produce issues with some builds, and so
> Julia's point is confirmed that the series only proves hanlders
> which you did build and for which 0-day has coverage for.
>
> The challenge here was to see if we could draw up a test case
> that would prove this without build tests, and what occurred to
> me was coccinelle or smatch.
>
> > > If that is indeed what you are proposing, you might not even need the
> > > un-register step as all the mutability that I have seen occurs before
> > > the register. So maybe instead of re-registering it, you can so a copy
> > > (of the changed ctl_table) to a const pointer and then pass that along
> > > to the register function.
> >
> > Tables that are modified, but *not* through the handler, would crop
> > during the constification of the table structs.
> > Which should be a second step.
>
> Instead of "croping up" at build time again, I wonder if we can do
> better with coccinelle / smatch.
>
> Joel, and yes, what you described is what I was suggesting, that is to
> avoid having to add a non-const handler a first step, instead we modify
> those callers which do require to modify the table by first a
> deregistration and later a registration. In fact to make this even
> easier a new call would be nice so to aslo be able to git grep when
> this is done in the kernel.
>
> But if what you suggest is true that there are no registrations which
> later modify the table, we don't need that. It is the uncertainty that
> we might have that this is a true statment that I wanted to challenge
> to see if we could do better. Can we avoid this being a stupid
> regression later by doing code analysis with coccinelle / smatch?
That would be amazing! Having an analysis (coccinelle or smatch) that
prevents the regression would be the cherry on top.
So to further clarify: what you propose is an additional patch in the
series that adds this regression prevention.
Or do you want a general analysis that prevents changing a variable
variable that was defined as const.
>
> The template of the above endeavor seems useful not only to this use
> case but to any place in the kernel where this previously has been done
> before, and hence my suggestion that this seems like a sensible thing
> to think over to see if we could generalize.
A generalized analysis for inadvertent de-constification would be great.
It would point to places where we need remove the const qualifier or add
it.
>
> Luis
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2023-12-04 7:52 ` [PATCH v2 00/18] sysctl: constify sysctl ctl_tables Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04 7:52 ` [PATCH v2 01/18] watchdog/core: remove sysctl handlers from public header Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04 7:52 ` [PATCH v2 02/18] sysctl: delete unused define SYSCTL_PERM_EMPTY_DIR Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04 7:52 ` [PATCH v2 03/18] sysctl: drop sysctl_is_perm_empty_ctl_table Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-07 14:09 ` Joel Granados
2023-12-04 7:52 ` [PATCH v2 04/18] cgroup: bpf: constify ctl_table arguments and fields Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04 7:52 ` [PATCH v2 05/18] seccomp: constify ctl_table arguments of utility functions Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04 22:12 ` Kees Cook
2023-12-04 7:52 ` [PATCH v2 06/18] hugetlb: " Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04 7:52 ` [PATCH v2 07/18] utsname: constify ctl_table arguments of utility function Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04 7:52 ` [PATCH v2 08/18] stackleak: don't modify ctl_table argument Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04 22:14 ` Kees Cook
2023-12-04 7:52 ` [PATCH v2 09/18] sysctl: treewide: constify ctl_table_root::set_ownership Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04 7:52 ` [PATCH v2 10/18] sysctl: treewide: constify ctl_table_root::permissions Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04 7:52 ` [PATCH v2 11/18] sysctl: treewide: constify ctl_table_header::ctl_table_arg Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04 7:52 ` [PATCH v2 12/18] sysctl: treewide: constify the ctl_table argument of handlers Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04 22:17 ` Kees Cook
2023-12-05 9:50 ` kernel test robot
2023-12-05 16:05 ` kernel test robot
2023-12-04 7:52 ` [PATCH v2 13/18] sysctl: move sysctl type to ctl_table_header Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-05 22:33 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-05 22:41 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-05 22:50 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-06 5:53 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-07 12:14 ` Joel Granados
2023-12-07 19:29 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-21 12:09 ` Joel Granados
2023-12-23 13:04 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-24 18:51 ` Joel Granados
2023-12-07 12:05 ` Joel Granados
2023-12-07 11:31 ` Joel Granados
2023-12-04 7:52 ` [PATCH v2 14/18] sysctl: move internal interfaces to const struct ctl_table Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04 7:52 ` [PATCH v2 15/18] sysctl: allow registration of " Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04 7:52 ` [PATCH v2 16/18] const_structs.checkpatch: add ctl_table Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04 7:52 ` [PATCH v2 17/18] sysctl: make ctl_table sysctl_mount_point const Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04 7:52 ` [PATCH v2 18/18] sysctl: constify standard sysctl tables Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-05 5:50 ` [PATCH v2 00/18] sysctl: constify sysctl ctl_tables Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-05 8:04 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-05 17:16 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-05 22:27 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-07 11:23 ` Joel Granados
2023-12-07 11:19 ` Joel Granados
2023-12-07 19:23 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-07 11:05 ` Joel Granados
2023-12-07 10:43 ` Joel Granados
2023-12-07 19:19 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-08 9:59 ` Joel Granados
2023-12-11 11:25 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-12 9:09 ` Joel Granados
2023-12-13 7:51 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-15 16:40 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-15 17:05 ` Julia Lawall
2023-12-17 12:02 ` Joel Granados
2023-12-17 22:10 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-18 21:21 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-19 19:29 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-19 20:39 ` Julia Lawall
2023-12-19 21:09 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-19 21:21 ` Julia Lawall
2023-12-20 0:09 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-20 7:39 ` Julia Lawall
2023-12-20 14:34 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-19 23:04 ` Julia Lawall
2023-12-21 12:44 ` Joel Granados
2023-12-21 12:36 ` Joel Granados [this message]
2023-12-21 12:12 ` Joel Granados
2023-12-13 7:47 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-13 18:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
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