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From: Joel Granados <j.granados@samsung.com>
To: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
Cc: "Thomas Weißschuh" <linux@weissschuh.net>,
	"Dan Carpenter" <dan.carpenter@linaro.org>,
	"Julia Lawall" <julia.lawall@inria.fr>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavoars@kernel.org>,
	"Iurii Zaikin" <yzaikin@google.com>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/18] sysctl: constify sysctl ctl_tables
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2023 13:36:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231221123644.k57uvfmpcrfo4vfk@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZYC37Vco1p4vD8ji@bombadil.infradead.org>

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On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 01:21:49PM -0800, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> So we can split this up concentually in two:
> 
>  * constificaiton of the table handlers
>  * constification of the table struct itself
> 
> On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 11:10:15PM +0100, Thomas Weißschuh wrote:
> > The handlers can already be made const as shown in this series,
> 
> The series did already produce issues with some builds, and so
> Julia's point is confirmed that the series only proves hanlders
> which you did build and for which 0-day has coverage for.
> 
> The challenge here was to see if we could draw up a test case
> that would prove this without build tests, and what occurred to
> me was coccinelle or smatch.
> 
> > > If that is indeed what you are proposing, you might not even need the
> > > un-register step as all the mutability that I have seen occurs before
> > > the register. So maybe instead of re-registering it, you can so a copy
> > > (of the changed ctl_table) to a const pointer and then pass that along
> > > to the register function.
> > 
> > Tables that are modified, but *not* through the handler, would crop
> > during the constification of the table structs.
> > Which should be a second step.
> 
> Instead of "croping up" at build time again, I wonder if we can do
> better with coccinelle / smatch.
> 
> Joel, and yes, what you described is what I was suggesting, that is to
> avoid having to add a non-const handler a first step, instead we modify
> those callers which do require to modify the table by first a
> deregistration and later a registration. In fact to make this even
> easier a new call would be nice so to aslo be able to git grep when
> this is done in the kernel.
> 
> But if what you suggest is true that there are no registrations which
> later modify the table, we don't need that. It is the uncertainty that
> we might have that this is a true statment that I wanted to challenge
> to see if we could do better. Can we avoid this being a stupid
> regression later by doing code analysis with coccinelle / smatch?
That would be amazing! Having an analysis (coccinelle or smatch) that
prevents the regression would be the cherry on top.

So to further clarify: what you propose is an additional patch in the
series that adds this regression prevention.
Or do you want a general analysis that prevents changing a variable
variable that was defined as const.

> 
> The template of the above endeavor seems useful not only to this use
> case but to any place in the kernel where this previously has been done
> before, and hence my suggestion that this seems like a sensible thing
> to think over to see if we could generalize.
A generalized analysis for inadvertent de-constification would be great.
It would point to places where we need remove the const qualifier or add
it.

> 
>   Luis

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Joel Granados

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-12-23 12:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2023-12-04  7:52 ` [PATCH v2 00/18] sysctl: constify sysctl ctl_tables Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 01/18] watchdog/core: remove sysctl handlers from public header Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 02/18] sysctl: delete unused define SYSCTL_PERM_EMPTY_DIR Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 03/18] sysctl: drop sysctl_is_perm_empty_ctl_table Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-07 14:09     ` Joel Granados
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 04/18] cgroup: bpf: constify ctl_table arguments and fields Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 05/18] seccomp: constify ctl_table arguments of utility functions Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04 22:12     ` Kees Cook
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 06/18] hugetlb: " Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 07/18] utsname: constify ctl_table arguments of utility function Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 08/18] stackleak: don't modify ctl_table argument Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04 22:14     ` Kees Cook
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 09/18] sysctl: treewide: constify ctl_table_root::set_ownership Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 10/18] sysctl: treewide: constify ctl_table_root::permissions Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 11/18] sysctl: treewide: constify ctl_table_header::ctl_table_arg Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 12/18] sysctl: treewide: constify the ctl_table argument of handlers Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04 22:17     ` Kees Cook
2023-12-05  9:50     ` kernel test robot
2023-12-05 16:05     ` kernel test robot
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 13/18] sysctl: move sysctl type to ctl_table_header Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-05 22:33     ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-05 22:41       ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-05 22:50         ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-06  5:53           ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-07 12:14             ` Joel Granados
2023-12-07 19:29               ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-21 12:09             ` Joel Granados
2023-12-23 13:04               ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-24 18:51                 ` Joel Granados
2023-12-07 12:05           ` Joel Granados
2023-12-07 11:31     ` Joel Granados
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 14/18] sysctl: move internal interfaces to const struct ctl_table Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 15/18] sysctl: allow registration of " Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 16/18] const_structs.checkpatch: add ctl_table Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 17/18] sysctl: make ctl_table sysctl_mount_point const Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 18/18] sysctl: constify standard sysctl tables Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-05  5:50   ` [PATCH v2 00/18] sysctl: constify sysctl ctl_tables Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-05  8:04     ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-05 17:16       ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-05 22:27         ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-07 11:23           ` Joel Granados
2023-12-07 11:19         ` Joel Granados
2023-12-07 19:23           ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-07 11:05       ` Joel Granados
2023-12-07 10:43   ` Joel Granados
2023-12-07 19:19     ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-08  9:59       ` Joel Granados
2023-12-11 11:25         ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-12  9:09           ` Joel Granados
2023-12-13  7:51             ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-15 16:40               ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-15 17:05                 ` Julia Lawall
2023-12-17 12:02               ` Joel Granados
2023-12-17 22:10                 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-18 21:21                   ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-19 19:29                     ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-19 20:39                       ` Julia Lawall
2023-12-19 21:09                       ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-19 21:21                         ` Julia Lawall
2023-12-20  0:09                           ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-20  7:39                             ` Julia Lawall
2023-12-20 14:34                               ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-19 23:04                         ` Julia Lawall
2023-12-21 12:44                       ` Joel Granados
2023-12-21 12:36                     ` Joel Granados [this message]
2023-12-21 12:12                   ` Joel Granados
2023-12-13  7:47           ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-13 18:18             ` Eric W. Biederman

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