From: James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>
To: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>, Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>,
Michael Schmitz <schmitzmic@gmail.com>,
"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
drew@colorado.edu, Tnx to <Thomas_Roesch@m2.maus.de>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/10] scsi: NCR5380: Replace snprintf() with the safer scnprintf() variant
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:56:38 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <98bdd564c6bf1894717d060f3187c779e969fc5f.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240208102939.GF689448@google.com>
On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 10:29 +0000, Lee Jones wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Feb 2024, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>
> > Hi Lee,
> >
> > Thanks for your patch!
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 9:48 AM Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > There is a general misunderstanding amongst engineers that
> > > {v}snprintf()
> > > returns the length of the data *actually* encoded into the
> > > destination
> > > array. However, as per the C99 standard {v}snprintf() really
> > > returns
> > > the length of the data that *would have been* written if there
> > > were
> > > enough space for it. This misunderstanding has led to buffer-
> > > overruns
> > > in the past. It's generally considered safer to use the
> > > {v}scnprintf()
> > > variants in their place (or even sprintf() in simple cases). So
> > > let's
> > > do that.
> >
> > Confused... The return value is not used at all?
>
> Future proofing. The idea of the effort is to rid the use entirely.
>
> - Usage is inside a sysfs handler passing PAGE_SIZE as the size
> - s/snprintf/sysfs_emit/
> - Usage is inside a sysfs handler passing a bespoke value as the
> size
> - s/snprintf/scnprintf/
> - Return value used, but does *not* care about overflow
> - s/snprintf/scnprintf/
> - Return value used, caller *does* care about overflow
> - s/snprintf/seq_buf/
> - Return value not used
> - s/snprintf/scnprintf/
>
> This is the final case.
To re-ask Geert's question: the last case can't ever lead to a bug or
problem, what value does churning the kernel to change it provide? As
Finn said, if we want to deprecate it as a future pattern, put it in
checkpatch.
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-02-10 12:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-08 8:44 [PATCH 00/10] scsi: Replace {v}snprintf() variants with safer alternatives Lee Jones
2024-02-08 8:44 ` [PATCH 01/10] scsi: 3w-xxxx: Trivial: Remove trailing whitespace Lee Jones
2024-02-10 6:58 ` Kees Cook
2024-02-08 8:44 ` [PATCH 02/10] scsi: 53c700: " Lee Jones
2024-02-10 6:58 ` Kees Cook
2024-02-08 8:44 ` [PATCH 03/10] scsi: NCR5380: Replace snprintf() with the safer scnprintf() variant Lee Jones
2024-02-08 10:22 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-02-08 10:29 ` Lee Jones
2024-02-10 9:32 ` Finn Thain
2024-02-10 12:56 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2024-02-19 15:23 ` Lee Jones
2024-02-19 16:25 ` James Bottomley
2024-02-20 8:28 ` Lee Jones
2024-02-19 21:30 ` Kees Cook
2024-02-20 8:24 ` Lee Jones
2024-02-10 7:14 ` Kees Cook
2024-02-08 8:44 ` [PATCH 04/10] scsi: aacraid: linit: Remove snprintf() from sysfs call-backs and replace with sysfs_emit() Lee Jones
2024-02-10 7:00 ` Kees Cook
2024-02-08 8:44 ` [PATCH 05/10] scsi: aacraid: linit: Replace snprintf() with the safer scnprintf() variant Lee Jones
2024-02-10 7:03 ` Kees Cook
2024-02-08 8:44 ` [PATCH 06/10] scsi: aha1542: " Lee Jones
2024-02-10 7:06 ` Kees Cook
2024-02-08 8:44 ` [PATCH 07/10] scsi: aic7xxx: aicasm: Trivial: Remove trailing whitespace Lee Jones
2024-02-10 6:58 ` Kees Cook
2024-02-08 8:44 ` [PATCH 08/10] scsi: aic7xxx: aicasm: Replace snprintf() with the safer scnprintf() variant Lee Jones
2024-02-10 7:06 ` Kees Cook
2024-02-08 8:44 ` [PATCH 09/10] scsi: aic94xx: Remove snprintf() from sysfs call-backs and replace with sysfs_emit() Lee Jones
2024-02-10 7:13 ` Kees Cook
2024-02-08 8:44 ` [PATCH 10/10] scsi: arcmsr: " Lee Jones
2024-02-10 7:13 ` Kees Cook
2024-02-08 17:40 ` [PATCH 00/10] scsi: Replace {v}snprintf() variants with safer alternatives Bart Van Assche
2024-02-08 17:49 ` Lee Jones
2024-02-10 6:56 ` .mailmap support for removals (was Re: [PATCH 00/10] scsi: Replace {v}snprintf() variants with safer alternatives) Kees Cook
2024-02-10 22:56 ` Joe Perches
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