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From: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Johannes Thumshirn <Johannes.Thumshirn@wdc.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	"hch@infradead.org" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/32] mm: Bring back vmalloc_exec
Date: Tue, 16 May 2023 17:57:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZGP8TYbpOdJilvD2@moria.home.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZGP54T0d89TMySsf@casper.infradead.org>

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 10:47:13PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 05:20:33PM -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> > On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 02:02:11PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > > For something that small, why not use the text_poke API?
> > 
> > This looks like it's meant for patching existing kernel text, which
> > isn't what I want - I'm generating new functions on the fly, one per
> > btree node.
> > 
> > I'm working up a new allocator - a (very simple) slab allocator where
> > you pass a buffer, and it gives you a copy of that buffer mapped
> > executable, but not writeable.
> > 
> > It looks like we'll be able to convert bpf, kprobes, and ftrace
> > trampolines to it; it'll consolidate a fair amount of code (particularly
> > in bpf), and they won't have to burn a full page per allocation anymore.
> > 
> > bpf has a neat trick where it maps the same page in two different
> > locations, one is the executable location and the other is the writeable
> > location - I'm stealing that.
> 
> How does that avoid the problem of being able to construct an arbitrary
> gadget that somebody else will then execute?  IOW, what bpf has done
> seems like it's working around & undoing the security improvements.
> 
> I suppose it's an improvement that only the executable address is
> passed back to the caller, and not the writable address.

That's my thinking; grepping around finds several uses of module_alloc()
that are all doing different variations on the page permissions dance.
Let's just do it once and do it right...

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-16 21:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20230509165657.1735798-1-kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
     [not found] ` <20230509165657.1735798-8-kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
2023-05-10 15:05   ` [PATCH 07/32] mm: Bring back vmalloc_exec Johannes Thumshirn
2023-05-11 22:28     ` Kees Cook
2023-05-12 18:41       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-16 21:02         ` Kees Cook
2023-05-16 21:20           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-16 21:47             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-05-16 21:57               ` Kent Overstreet [this message]
2023-05-17  5:28               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-17 14:04                 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-17 14:18                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-17 15:44                     ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-17 15:59                       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-17  4:13             ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-17 15:34               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-17 19:19                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-17 20:08                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-17 20:35                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-19 19:45                 ` Kees Cook
2023-06-20  0:39                   ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found] ` <20230509165657.1735798-30-kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
2023-07-12 19:58   ` [PATCH 29/32] lib/string_helpers: string_get_size() now returns characters wrote Kees Cook
2023-07-12 20:19     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-12 22:38       ` Kees Cook
2023-07-12 23:53         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-12 20:23     ` Kent Overstreet

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