From: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Johannes Thumshirn <Johannes.Thumshirn@wdc.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org>,
Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
"hch@infradead.org" <hch@infradead.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org"
<linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/32] mm: Bring back vmalloc_exec
Date: Tue, 16 May 2023 17:57:33 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZGP8TYbpOdJilvD2@moria.home.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZGP54T0d89TMySsf@casper.infradead.org>
On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 10:47:13PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 05:20:33PM -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> > On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 02:02:11PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > > For something that small, why not use the text_poke API?
> >
> > This looks like it's meant for patching existing kernel text, which
> > isn't what I want - I'm generating new functions on the fly, one per
> > btree node.
> >
> > I'm working up a new allocator - a (very simple) slab allocator where
> > you pass a buffer, and it gives you a copy of that buffer mapped
> > executable, but not writeable.
> >
> > It looks like we'll be able to convert bpf, kprobes, and ftrace
> > trampolines to it; it'll consolidate a fair amount of code (particularly
> > in bpf), and they won't have to burn a full page per allocation anymore.
> >
> > bpf has a neat trick where it maps the same page in two different
> > locations, one is the executable location and the other is the writeable
> > location - I'm stealing that.
>
> How does that avoid the problem of being able to construct an arbitrary
> gadget that somebody else will then execute? IOW, what bpf has done
> seems like it's working around & undoing the security improvements.
>
> I suppose it's an improvement that only the executable address is
> passed back to the caller, and not the writable address.
That's my thinking; grepping around finds several uses of module_alloc()
that are all doing different variations on the page permissions dance.
Let's just do it once and do it right...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-16 21:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20230509165657.1735798-1-kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
[not found] ` <20230509165657.1735798-8-kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
2023-05-10 15:05 ` [PATCH 07/32] mm: Bring back vmalloc_exec Johannes Thumshirn
2023-05-11 22:28 ` Kees Cook
2023-05-12 18:41 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-16 21:02 ` Kees Cook
2023-05-16 21:20 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-16 21:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-05-16 21:57 ` Kent Overstreet [this message]
2023-05-17 5:28 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-17 14:04 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-17 14:18 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-17 15:44 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-17 15:59 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-17 4:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-17 15:34 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-17 19:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-17 20:08 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-17 20:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-19 19:45 ` Kees Cook
2023-06-20 0:39 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <20230509165657.1735798-30-kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
2023-07-12 19:58 ` [PATCH 29/32] lib/string_helpers: string_get_size() now returns characters wrote Kees Cook
2023-07-12 20:19 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-12 22:38 ` Kees Cook
2023-07-12 23:53 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-12 20:23 ` Kent Overstreet
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