From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, x86@kernel.org,
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raghavendra.kt@amd.com, boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com,
konrad.wilk@oracle.com, jgross@suse.com,
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Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
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Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@cam>
Subject: Re: Arches that don't support PREEMPT
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2023 11:31:08 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230919113108.1c988906@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZQmw5dUzcFOWjHdB@casper.infradead.org>
On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 15:32:05 +0100
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 04:24:48PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> > If the conversion isn't hard, why is the first reflex the urge to remove an architecture
> > instead of offering advise how to get the conversion done?
>
> Because PREEMPT has been around since before 2005 (cc19ca86a023 created
> Kconfig.preempt and I don't need to go back further than that to make my
> point), and you haven't done the work yet. Clearly it takes the threat
> of removal to get some kind of motion.
Or the use case of a preempt kernel on said arch has never been a request.
Just because it was available doesn't necessarily mean it's required.
Please, let's not jump to threats of removal just to get a feature in.
Simply ask first. I didn't see anyone reaching out to the maintainers
asking for this as it will be needed for a new feature that will likely
make maintaining said arch easier.
Everything is still in brainstorming mode.
-- Steve
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2023-09-19 13:00 ` Arches that don't support PREEMPT Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-19 13:34 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-19 13:37 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-09-19 13:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-19 13:48 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-09-19 14:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-19 14:24 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-09-19 14:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-19 15:31 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2023-09-20 14:38 ` Anton Ivanov
2023-09-21 12:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-19 14:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-19 14:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-09-19 14:57 ` Matt Turner
2023-09-19 17:09 ` Ulrich Teichert
2023-09-19 17:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-19 17:58 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-09-19 18:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-19 18:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-09-19 18:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-19 19:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-20 7:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2023-09-20 7:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2023-09-20 8:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-20 10:37 ` David Laight
2023-09-19 14:21 ` Anton Ivanov
2023-09-19 15:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-19 15:21 ` Anton Ivanov
2023-09-19 16:22 ` Richard Weinberger
2023-09-19 16:41 ` Anton Ivanov
2023-09-19 17:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-06 14:51 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
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