Re: [Lhms-devel] Hotplug SIG

Re: [Lhms-devel] Hotplug SIG

[Dave Hansen]

On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 08:35, Silbermann, Martine wrote:
...
> For those of you unfamiliar with the concept of OSDL SIGs, they are
> temporary groups created to work on specific areas i.e we'll figure out
> what needs to be done, write code for it, get it submitted and accepted,
> provide documentation when required and disband.

It's always nice to have more people involved an interested in your
subject area.  But, I wonder, is there something that you see as lacking
in Linux hotplug development that lead to the formation of this SIG? 
Or, is this just a way of helping an area in which it's interested?

-- Dave



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RE: [Lhms-devel] Hotplug SIG

[Silbermann, Martine]

Hi Dave,

In the past OSDL has mostly concentrated their efforts around storage
networking. However as of lately some other areas that are viewed as
crucial to the success of Linux are getting more attention. While there
has already been a lot of work done in the different hotplug areas we
felt that it was important that we become involved and offer to help
along where needed.

Martine

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Hansen [mailto:haveblue@us.ibm.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 11:51 AM
To: Silbermann, Martine
Cc: Hotplug CPU list; lhms; lhns-devel@lists.sourceforge.net;
pcihpd-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net; hotplug devel
Subject: Re: [Lhms-devel] Hotplug SIG


On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 08:35, Silbermann, Martine wrote:
...
> For those of you unfamiliar with the concept of OSDL SIGs, they are 
> temporary groups created to work on specific areas i.e we'll figure 
> out what needs to be done, write code for it, get it submitted and 
> accepted, provide documentation when required and disband.

It's always nice to have more people involved an interested in your
subject area.  But, I wonder, is there something that you see as lacking
in Linux hotplug development that lead to the formation of this SIG? 
Or, is this just a way of helping an area in which it's interested?

-- Dave



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Re: [Lhms-devel] Hotplug SIG

[Joel Schopp]

<snip>
> As the SIG leader I will make it a point to keep
> you inform through the existing mailing lists of our progress and come
> to you with questions/comments/discussions.

Please do not cross post in the future.  While doing so one time is 
probably OK it is not a good habit to get into.  Try to carry out 
discussion on the actual sig mailing list you set up, which you forgot 
to refer people to.  This will be my only email on this subject not 
directed at that list, and this one only because I don't think others 
are aware of its existence yet. 
http://lists.osdl.org/mailman/listinfo/hotplug_sig

> For those of you unfamiliar with the concept of OSDL SIGs, they are
> temporary groups created to work on specific areas i.e we'll figure out
> what needs to be done, write code for it, get it submitted and accepted,
> provide documentation when required and disband.

I, and I would guess several others, are skeptical that you are not 
trying to preempt and/or control the work already being done by the 
community.  I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt for now.  I hope 
others will do the same.

> 
> After this lengthy introduction here is my request to you:
> If there are any tasks or features that you would like to get done but
> don't have the time or resource to do them yourself or within your group
> please let us know. Again right now the SIG is reaching out to everyone
> but as we get more educated we will only focus on what needs to be done.
> Also remember that a lot of OSDL members are vendors and as such have
> access to prototype hardware for testing.

I've worked on cpu hotplug, am now working on memory hotplug, and am 
somewhat involved in pci hotplug.

What I see as common unfulfilled needs are:
1. Documentation and more documentation.
2. Constant regression testing.  As not a lot of people have hardware 
that supports various hotplug and they are not enabled by default new 
features tend to break them.


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RE: [Lhms-devel] Hotplug SIG

[Silbermann, Martine]

Hi Joel,

Thanks so much, lots of good advice and ideas and also thanks for giving
a pointer to the SIG mailing list. 

I appreciate you giving me the benefit of the doubt. Again I have no
intention to "take over" any of the existing work and hope that
eventually everyone in the community will understand and accept
that....but I know that I have to prove my good intentions first and the
benefit of the doubt is the best I can hope for.

I will add documentation and regression testing on our to-do list.

Thanks again.
Martine

-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Schopp [mailto:jschopp@austin.ibm.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 4:15 PM
To: Silbermann, Martine
Cc: lhcs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; lhms-devel@lists.sourceforge.net;
lhns-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; pcihpd-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net;
linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Lhms-devel] Hotplug SIG


<snip>
> As the SIG leader I will make it a point to keep
> you inform through the existing mailing lists of our progress and come

> to you with questions/comments/discussions.

Please do not cross post in the future.  While doing so one time is 
probably OK it is not a good habit to get into.  Try to carry out 
discussion on the actual sig mailing list you set up, which you forgot 
to refer people to.  This will be my only email on this subject not 
directed at that list, and this one only because I don't think others 
are aware of its existence yet. 
http://lists.osdl.org/mailman/listinfo/hotplug_sig

> For those of you unfamiliar with the concept of OSDL SIGs, they are 
> temporary groups created to work on specific areas i.e we'll figure 
> out what needs to be done, write code for it, get it submitted and 
> accepted, provide documentation when required and disband.

I, and I would guess several others, are skeptical that you are not 
trying to preempt and/or control the work already being done by the 
community.  I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt for now.  I hope 
others will do the same.

> 
> After this lengthy introduction here is my request to you:
> If there are any tasks or features that you would like to get done but

> don't have the time or resource to do them yourself or within your 
> group please let us know. Again right now the SIG is reaching out to 
> everyone but as we get more educated we will only focus on what needs 
> to be done. Also remember that a lot of OSDL members are vendors and 
> as such have access to prototype hardware for testing.

I've worked on cpu hotplug, am now working on memory hotplug, and am 
somewhat involved in pci hotplug.

What I see as common unfulfilled needs are:
1. Documentation and more documentation.
2. Constant regression testing.  As not a lot of people have hardware 
that supports various hotplug and they are not enabled by default new 
features tend to break them.


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