Re: [adventure] replace /sbin/hotplug by udevd

[Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>]

On Thu, 2004-11-18 at 16:55 -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 09:04:55PM -0700, Kevin P. Fleming wrote:
> > Kay Sievers wrote:
> > 
> > >This experimental patch changes udevd/udev to handle the _whole_ hotplug
> > >event from the kernel up to the multiplexing of /etc/hotplug.d/. It
> > >should solve most of the current shortcomings of the hotplug event 
> > >handling:
> > >  - sysfs if not fully populated at event time
> > >  - at device disconnect/reconnect, the "remove" may beat the "add"
> > >  - an event may already work on the same DEVPATH
> > >  - the hotplug scripts don't know the device node name
> > >  - the total count of event processes can't be controlled
> > 
> > This is very, very cool. What a major simplification of the whole 
> > process, with the addition of interesting new features as well.
> > 
> > What is the likely timeframe for this to make it into udev proper?
> 
> The main "problem" with this is for people who don't want to run udev on
> their machines.  They are happy with their static dev, yet they want to
> have the hotplug package manage their modules, and do the other fun
> stuff (like HAL).  If udev requires that it take over the hotplug
> multiplexer, then anyone who doesn't use udev looses out from the good
> things that HAL and anyone who relies on the functionality that this new
> udevd provides can't ensure that all users will actually have it
> running.

HAL will not work without udev!

And take it the other way around: Which udev user really needs to
run /sbin/hotplug?

The question is not what we can do _with_ udev for people who don't want
udev, right? :)

Thanks,
Kay



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