From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Kay Sievers Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 01:11:40 +0000 Subject: Re: [adventure] replace /sbin/hotplug by udevd Message-Id: <1100826700.27302.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> List-Id: References: <20041118002726.GA4281@vrfy.org> In-Reply-To: <20041118002726.GA4281@vrfy.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 2004-11-18 at 16:55 -0800, Greg KH wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 09:04:55PM -0700, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: > > Kay Sievers wrote: > > > > >This experimental patch changes udevd/udev to handle the _whole_ hotplug > > >event from the kernel up to the multiplexing of /etc/hotplug.d/. It > > >should solve most of the current shortcomings of the hotplug event > > >handling: > > > - sysfs if not fully populated at event time > > > - at device disconnect/reconnect, the "remove" may beat the "add" > > > - an event may already work on the same DEVPATH > > > - the hotplug scripts don't know the device node name > > > - the total count of event processes can't be controlled > > > > This is very, very cool. What a major simplification of the whole > > process, with the addition of interesting new features as well. > > > > What is the likely timeframe for this to make it into udev proper? > > The main "problem" with this is for people who don't want to run udev on > their machines. They are happy with their static dev, yet they want to > have the hotplug package manage their modules, and do the other fun > stuff (like HAL). If udev requires that it take over the hotplug > multiplexer, then anyone who doesn't use udev looses out from the good > things that HAL and anyone who relies on the functionality that this new > udevd provides can't ensure that all users will actually have it > running. HAL will not work without udev! And take it the other way around: Which udev user really needs to run /sbin/hotplug? The question is not what we can do _with_ udev for people who don't want udev, right? :) Thanks, Kay ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: InterSystems CACHE FREE OODBMS DOWNLOAD - A multidimensional database that combines robust object and relational technologies, making it a perfect match for Java, C++,COM, XML, ODBC and JDBC. www.intersystems.com/match8 _______________________________________________ Linux-hotplug-devel mailing list http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net Linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-hotplug-devel