From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: udevd: serialize device chain event sequence
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 08:18:28 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1102580308.10393.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041208231335.GA6402@vrfy.org>
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 19:07 -0800, David Brownell wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 December 2004 3:13 pm, Kay Sievers wrote:
> > Any objections against the serialization of the event sequence of a
> > chain of devices. Currently udevd delays only events for the same
> > DEVPATH.
>
> I'm amused ... that's what the original hotplug code achieved.
> Thing is, now serialization would be done in userspace, rather
> than offering new and fun paths to kernel deadlock nirvana! :)
Yeah, the same applies to current userspace code, like the one we have
in HAL :)
> > Example of an "add" event sequence:
> > /block/sda
> > /block/sda/sda1
> >
> > With this change, we make sure, that the udev process handling /block/sda
> > has finished its work (waited for all attributes, created the node) before
> > we fork the udev event for /block/sda/sda1. This way the event for sda1 can
> > be sure, that the node for the main device is already created (may be
> > useful for disk labels).
>
> But the "add" for the underlying hardware (maybe USB) would
> not be serialized.
Right, just the stream of events for the /sys/devices/-device is
serialized, but in another event sequence. The class/block device
carries from kernel 2.6.10+ on the PHYSDEVPATH variable in the
environment, which makes it easy to know what to wait for.
> > The main motivation to do this is the program execution of the dev.d/
> > and hotplug.d/ directory. If we don't wait for the parent event to exit,
> > we can't be sure that the executed scripts are run in the right order.
>
> Could that argument apply to the underlying hardware, too?
Good question. I never thought about that until you asked. :) It sounds
nice to let udevd serialize the complete event stream, based on
PHYSDEVPATH. I will try it today and come back...
Thanks,
Kay
-------------------------------------------------------
SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/
_______________________________________________
Linux-hotplug-devel mailing list http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net
Linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-hotplug-devel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-12-09 8:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-12-08 23:13 udevd: serialize device chain event sequence Kay Sievers
2004-12-09 3:07 ` David Brownell
2004-12-09 8:18 ` Kay Sievers [this message]
2004-12-09 10:06 ` Kay Sievers
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=1102580308.10393.14.camel@localhost.localdomain \
--to=kay.sievers@vrfy.org \
--cc=linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).