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From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>
Cc: Roland Dreier <roland@topspin.com>,
	Prakash Punnoor <prakashp@arcor.de>,
	Paolo Ciarrocchi <paolo.ciarrocchi@gmail.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Patrick McFarland <pmcfarland@downeast.net>,
	linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:17:25 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1108430245.32293.16.camel@krustophenia.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42113F6B.1080602@am.sony.com>

On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 16:16 -0800, Tim Bird wrote:
> Lee Revell wrote:
> > But, I was referring more to things like GDM not being started until all
> > the other init scripts are done.  Why not start it first, and let the
> > network initialize while the user is logging in?
> 
> There are a number of techniques used by CE vendors to get fast bootup
> time.  Some CE products boot Linux in under 1 second.  Sony's
> best Linux boot time in the lab (from power on to user space)
> was 148 milliseconds, on an ARM chip (running at 200 MHZ I believe).

The reason I marked by response OT is that the time from power on to
userspace does not seem to be a big problem.  It's the amount of time
from user space to presenting a login prompt that's way too long.  My
distro (Debian) runs all the init scripts one at a time, and GDM is the
last thing that gets run.  There is just no reason for this.  We should
start X and initialize the display and get the login prompt up there
ASAP, and let the system acquire the DHCP lease and start sendmail and
apache and get the date from the NTP server *in the background while I
am logging in*.  It's not rocket science.

Lee



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Thread overview: 148+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-11  0:40 [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release Greg KH
2005-02-11  0:52 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11  1:30   ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-02-11  6:41     ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 11:47       ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-02-11 17:06         ` Greg KH
2005-02-12  0:02           ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-02-11  1:07 ` Patrick McFarland
2005-02-11  1:16   ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 20:40     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-02-14  4:06     ` Lee Revell
2005-02-14  8:32       ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-02-14  8:51         ` Prakash Punnoor
2005-02-14 23:04           ` Lee Revell
2005-02-14 23:16             ` Greg KH
2005-02-14 23:28               ` Lee Revell
2005-02-15 15:15                 ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-02-15 20:12                   ` kernel
2005-02-14 23:21             ` Roland Dreier
2005-02-14 23:45               ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Lee Revell
2005-02-15  0:16                 ` Tim Bird
2005-02-15  1:17                   ` Lee Revell [this message]
2005-02-15  1:45                     ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) Kyle Moffett
2005-02-15  7:32                       ` Gábor Lénárt
2005-02-15  8:34                         ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-02-15  9:27                           ` [OT] speeding boot process Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-02-15  8:55                       ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Helge Hafting
2005-02-15  9:33                         ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-02-15 13:20                           ` Helge Hafting
2005-02-15 13:28                             ` Paulo Marques
2005-02-15 13:50                             ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-02-15  3:38                     ` Jim Crilly
2005-02-15  5:52                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-15  6:15                         ` Jim Crilly
2005-02-15  6:39                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-15 19:32                           ` Lee Revell
2005-02-17 18:37                     ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) jlnance
2005-02-17 19:18                       ` Chris Larson
2005-02-19  5:53                         ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Jim Crilly
2005-02-17 19:58                       ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) Helge Hafting
2005-02-19  5:56                         ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Jim Crilly
2005-02-19 22:47                           ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) Helge Hafting
2005-02-20  2:09                             ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Jim Crilly
2005-02-15  8:33                 ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-02-14 23:43             ` [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release Diego Calleja
2005-02-15 19:51               ` Lee Revell
2005-02-15 21:02                 ` Diego Calleja
2005-02-15 21:32                   ` Chris Friesen
2005-02-15 21:09                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-02-15 19:56               ` Optimizing disk-I/O [was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release] Linas Vepstas
2005-02-15 20:46                 ` Adam Goode
2005-02-15 21:11                   ` Diego Calleja
2005-02-15 21:21                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-02-11  3:18 ` [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release Bill Nottingham
2005-02-11  6:46   ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 16:19     ` Christian Bornträger
2005-02-11 17:01       ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 19:01         ` Erik Andersen
2005-02-11 19:23           ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 21:37             ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-11 21:49               ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 22:06                 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-11 22:13                   ` Greg KH
2005-02-12  0:48                     ` Ingo Oeser
2005-02-14 22:43                       ` Greg KH
2005-02-11  8:10 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11  8:17 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11  9:52 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-02-11 17:08   ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 10:53 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 17:41 ` Christian Bornträger
2005-02-11 18:15 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 18:47 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 19:33 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 19:36 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 19:40 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 19:57 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 20:06 ` Harald Dunkel
2005-02-11 21:01   ` Greg KH
2005-02-12  8:30     ` Harald Dunkel
2005-02-14 22:36       ` Greg KH
2005-02-15  5:39         ` Harald Dunkel
2005-02-15  7:14           ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 20:10 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 20:11 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 20:20 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 20:44 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 20:46 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 20:56 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 21:01 ` Kay Sievers
2005-02-11 21:10 ` Greg KH
2005-02-17  6:46   ` Michael Tokarev
2005-02-11 21:21 ` Kay Sievers
2005-02-11 21:30 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 21:33 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 21:54 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 21:57 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 22:05 ` Bill Nottingham
2005-02-11 22:12 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 22:13 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 22:16 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 22:18 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 22:45 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 22:55 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 23:05 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-11 23:17 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 23:29 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 23:35 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-12  0:10 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-12  0:17 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-12  0:34 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-12 11:43 ` Pozsár Balázs
2005-02-12 12:10 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-12 16:27 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-02-14 22:42 ` Greg KH
2005-02-15  7:34 ` Greg KH
2005-02-15  8:15 ` Christian Zoz
2005-02-15 10:25 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-02-15 12:20 ` [sane-devel] " Julien BLACHE
2005-02-16 10:51 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 11:07 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 11:11 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-16 11:18 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 11:27 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 12:37 ` Kay Sievers
2005-02-16 15:17 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 16:08 ` Kay Sievers
2005-02-16 23:02 ` Willem Riede
2005-02-16 23:17 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 23:32 ` Willem Riede
2005-02-18 17:17   ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-02-18 18:11     ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-18 18:33       ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-02-18 19:41         ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-18 20:17           ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-02-17  9:12 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-21 20:40 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-22 10:35 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-23  0:44 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-23 11:40 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-23 13:04 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-24  6:27 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-24 19:28 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-25 22:07 ` Greg KH
2005-02-25 22:07 ` Greg KH
2005-02-25 22:11 ` Greg KH
2005-02-25 22:12 ` Greg KH
2005-02-26 17:13 ` Roman Kagan

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