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From: kernel <kernel@crazytrain.com>
To: Stefan Seyfried <seife@suse.de>
Cc: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
	Prakash Punnoor <prakashp@arcor.de>,
	Paolo Ciarrocchi <paolo.ciarrocchi@gmail.com>,
	Patrick McFarland <pmcfarland@downeast.net>,
	linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:12:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1108498326.3866.57.camel@crazytrain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4212121B.807@suse.de>

On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 10:15, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
> You can boot a SUSE 9.2 with parallel init scripts (default AFAIR),
> sequential init scripts and with a Makefile based solution. "Normal"
> (not Makefile based) parallel booting is possible much longer on SUSE,
> at least since 9.0 IIRC.
> And guess what? "Parallel booting" alone, regardless of the mechanism
> does not make much of a difference for the boot time.
> 

My experience has been that hardware detection is what slows boot
process.  I've tested on various distros, Red Hat Linux, Slackware
Linux, SUSE, and Debian.

Starting services never seems to take any time (noticeable time).  But
when it lands on detecting hardware, that's where the time is chewed. 
Typically with hotplug (all using 2.4 kernels) it's about 30 seconds,
which is the same as the rest of the boot process in my testing lab. 
1394, USB, and PCMCIA seem to be the slowest (because when I remove
these devices or turn off detection of these types boot time is *much*
faster).


Two things that I believe should be addressed;

1) Speeding up boot time (even if that means moving some hardware
detection and recognition to after login)

-and-

2) Proper identification of filesystem types.  Would love to have an
agreed upon by majority change that would change the mounting of
filesystems (identifying FS TYPE) to be more accurate.  


regards,

-fd



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  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-15 20:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 148+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-11  0:40 [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release Greg KH
2005-02-11  0:52 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11  1:30   ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-02-11  6:41     ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 11:47       ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-02-11 17:06         ` Greg KH
2005-02-12  0:02           ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-02-11  1:07 ` Patrick McFarland
2005-02-11  1:16   ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 20:40     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-02-14  4:06     ` Lee Revell
2005-02-14  8:32       ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-02-14  8:51         ` Prakash Punnoor
2005-02-14 23:04           ` Lee Revell
2005-02-14 23:16             ` Greg KH
2005-02-14 23:28               ` Lee Revell
2005-02-15 15:15                 ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-02-15 20:12                   ` kernel [this message]
2005-02-14 23:21             ` Roland Dreier
2005-02-14 23:45               ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Lee Revell
2005-02-15  0:16                 ` Tim Bird
2005-02-15  1:17                   ` Lee Revell
2005-02-15  1:45                     ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) Kyle Moffett
2005-02-15  7:32                       ` Gábor Lénárt
2005-02-15  8:34                         ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-02-15  9:27                           ` [OT] speeding boot process Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-02-15  8:55                       ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Helge Hafting
2005-02-15  9:33                         ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-02-15 13:20                           ` Helge Hafting
2005-02-15 13:28                             ` Paulo Marques
2005-02-15 13:50                             ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-02-15  3:38                     ` Jim Crilly
2005-02-15  5:52                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-15  6:15                         ` Jim Crilly
2005-02-15  6:39                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-15 19:32                           ` Lee Revell
2005-02-17 18:37                     ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) jlnance
2005-02-17 19:18                       ` Chris Larson
2005-02-19  5:53                         ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Jim Crilly
2005-02-17 19:58                       ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) Helge Hafting
2005-02-19  5:56                         ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Jim Crilly
2005-02-19 22:47                           ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) Helge Hafting
2005-02-20  2:09                             ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Jim Crilly
2005-02-15  8:33                 ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-02-14 23:43             ` [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release Diego Calleja
2005-02-15 19:51               ` Lee Revell
2005-02-15 21:02                 ` Diego Calleja
2005-02-15 21:32                   ` Chris Friesen
2005-02-15 21:09                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-02-15 19:56               ` Optimizing disk-I/O [was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release] Linas Vepstas
2005-02-15 20:46                 ` Adam Goode
2005-02-15 21:11                   ` Diego Calleja
2005-02-15 21:21                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-02-11  3:18 ` [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release Bill Nottingham
2005-02-11  6:46   ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 16:19     ` Christian Bornträger
2005-02-11 17:01       ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 19:01         ` Erik Andersen
2005-02-11 19:23           ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 21:37             ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-11 21:49               ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 22:06                 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-11 22:13                   ` Greg KH
2005-02-12  0:48                     ` Ingo Oeser
2005-02-14 22:43                       ` Greg KH
2005-02-11  8:10 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11  8:17 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11  9:52 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-02-11 17:08   ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 10:53 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 17:41 ` Christian Bornträger
2005-02-11 18:15 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 18:47 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 19:33 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 19:36 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 19:40 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 19:57 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 20:06 ` Harald Dunkel
2005-02-11 21:01   ` Greg KH
2005-02-12  8:30     ` Harald Dunkel
2005-02-14 22:36       ` Greg KH
2005-02-15  5:39         ` Harald Dunkel
2005-02-15  7:14           ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 20:10 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 20:11 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 20:20 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 20:44 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 20:46 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 20:56 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 21:01 ` Kay Sievers
2005-02-11 21:10 ` Greg KH
2005-02-17  6:46   ` Michael Tokarev
2005-02-11 21:21 ` Kay Sievers
2005-02-11 21:30 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 21:33 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 21:54 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 21:57 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 22:05 ` Bill Nottingham
2005-02-11 22:12 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 22:13 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 22:16 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 22:18 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 22:45 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 22:55 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 23:05 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-11 23:17 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 23:29 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 23:35 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-12  0:10 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-12  0:17 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-12  0:34 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-12 11:43 ` Pozsár Balázs
2005-02-12 12:10 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-12 16:27 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-02-14 22:42 ` Greg KH
2005-02-15  7:34 ` Greg KH
2005-02-15  8:15 ` Christian Zoz
2005-02-15 10:25 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-02-15 12:20 ` [sane-devel] " Julien BLACHE
2005-02-16 10:51 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 11:07 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 11:11 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-16 11:18 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 11:27 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 12:37 ` Kay Sievers
2005-02-16 15:17 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 16:08 ` Kay Sievers
2005-02-16 23:02 ` Willem Riede
2005-02-16 23:17 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 23:32 ` Willem Riede
2005-02-18 17:17   ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-02-18 18:11     ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-18 18:33       ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-02-18 19:41         ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-18 20:17           ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-02-17  9:12 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-21 20:40 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-22 10:35 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-23  0:44 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-23 11:40 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-23 13:04 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-24  6:27 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-24 19:28 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-25 22:07 ` Greg KH
2005-02-25 22:07 ` Greg KH
2005-02-25 22:11 ` Greg KH
2005-02-25 22:12 ` Greg KH
2005-02-26 17:13 ` Roman Kagan

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