From: David Zeuthen <david@fubar.dk>
To: Lennart Poettering <lennart-mdGvqq1h2p+GdvJs77BJ7Q@public.gmane.org>
Cc: dgilbert-qazKcTl6WRFWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
Alan Stern
<stern-nwvwT67g6+6dFdvTe/nMLpVzexx5G7lz@public.gmane.org>,
Jonas Schwertfeger
<jschwertfeger-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
linux-hotplug-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Sarah Sharp
<sarah.a.sharp-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>,
linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
USB Storage List
<usb-storage-ijkIwGHArpdIPJnuZ7Njw4oP9KaGy4wf@public.gmane.org>,
Matthew Dharm
<mdharm-usb-JGfshJpz5UybPZpvUQj5UqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>,
linux-scsi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: System hangs when using USB 3.0 HD with on Ubuntu
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:17:54 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1270055874.16657.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100331165807.GA20547-kS5D54t9nk0aINubkmmoJbNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 18:58 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > I actually don't think libatasmart has any business making such
> > decisions on behalf of the user... Lennart, any chance we can stop
> > libatasmart from doing this? Thanks.
>
> Uh. I think it definitely needs to call this. I am pretty sure most USB
> HDDs you plug in have SMART disabled by default until libatasmart
> enables it. So, libatasmart would stop enabling it automatically you'd
> end up with no SMART at all for these devices.
>
> Also, on my desktop here, when you reset the BIOS settings to the
> defaults, SMART is off. So, that means that somebody needs to enable
> SMART from Linux, and who should do that if not libatasmart?
Depends. If it's safe to enable SMART when available, sure, let's go for
it. If it's not safe, we can prompt the user that SMART monitoring is
available yet turned off. Much the same way we currently prompt the user
when the disk is failing
http://people.freedesktop.org/~david/smart-fail-1.png
It wouldn't be much work to do this.
David
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[not found] ` <59ca64281003300044g53ae5170xaf198bf99964fc36@mail.gmail.com>
2010-03-31 11:39 ` System hangs when using USB 3.0 HD with on Ubuntu Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-03-31 14:56 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-31 15:20 ` David Zeuthen
2010-03-31 16:12 ` Douglas Gilbert
2010-03-31 16:36 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-01 13:32 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-01 13:42 ` Kay Sievers
2010-04-01 13:55 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
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2010-04-01 14:05 ` Kay Sievers
2010-04-02 12:40 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
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2010-04-02 13:09 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
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2010-04-02 14:12 ` Alan Stern
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2010-04-02 14:41 ` James Bottomley
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2010-04-02 14:57 ` Alan Stern
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2010-04-02 15:19 ` Alan Stern
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2010-04-02 15:50 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2010-04-02 15:59 ` James Bottomley
2010-04-07 18:08 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-07 18:29 ` James Bottomley
2010-04-07 19:18 ` Alan Stern
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2010-04-07 22:49 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-08 5:06 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-02 16:21 ` Douglas Gilbert
2010-04-02 16:39 ` Douglas Gilbert
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2010-04-02 21:24 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-03 6:21 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
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2010-04-03 15:40 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-03 16:42 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-03 17:06 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-03 20:58 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-04 1:29 ` Mark Lord
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2010-04-06 6:43 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
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2010-04-06 14:49 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-06 14:56 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
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2010-04-07 6:27 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
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2010-04-07 14:36 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-07 14:42 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-07 14:51 ` Jerone Young
2010-04-07 15:03 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-07 15:10 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-09 15:38 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-09 16:39 ` Douglas Gilbert
[not found] ` <4BBF582F.4040707-qazKcTl6WRFWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-09 17:14 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-09 18:00 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-09 19:25 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-09 21:54 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-12 7:48 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-16 18:20 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-16 19:25 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-19 21:15 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-20 0:25 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-20 4:31 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-20 15:39 ` Alan Stern
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2010-04-20 17:37 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-20 19:48 ` Alan Stern
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[not found] ` <4BCF4120.4060806@pobox.com>
2010-04-21 18:27 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-21 19:07 ` Alan Stern
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2010-04-21 19:24 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-26 16:27 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-29 8:44 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-29 12:56 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-29 15:45 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-07 10:42 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
[not found] ` <4BE3EE87.6020505-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-07 15:03 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-11 6:54 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-05-11 14:44 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-12 12:56 ` Mark Lord
2010-05-12 14:23 ` Douglas Gilbert
2010-05-12 14:37 ` Mark Lord
2010-05-12 14:45 ` Mark Lord
2010-05-12 15:09 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-12 15:39 ` James Bottomley
2010-05-12 18:48 ` Alan Stern
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2010-05-13 3:12 ` Mark Lord
2010-05-13 18:42 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-21 12:31 ` Luben Tuikov
2010-04-21 14:31 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-21 12:47 ` Luben Tuikov
2010-04-21 13:52 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-21 14:04 ` James Bottomley
2010-04-21 14:08 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-21 14:15 ` James Bottomley
2010-04-21 14:13 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-21 14:22 ` James Bottomley
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2010-04-21 14:53 ` Alan Stern
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2010-04-21 23:29 ` Stefan Richter
2010-04-20 17:48 ` Douglas Gilbert
2010-04-16 21:31 ` James Bottomley
2010-04-16 23:56 ` Douglas Gilbert
2010-04-19 15:04 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-19 16:02 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-19 20:45 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-02 17:36 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-03-31 16:37 ` David Zeuthen
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2010-03-31 16:58 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-03-31 17:03 ` Lennart Poettering
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2010-03-31 17:17 ` David Zeuthen [this message]
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2010-04-21 15:09 ` Luben Tuikov
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