From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: Robert Love <rml@ximian.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Andries Brouwer <aebr@win.tue.nl>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
Andrey Borzenkov <arvidjaar@mail.ru>,
linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: removable media revalidation - udev vs. devfs or static /dev
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:16:35 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040109011635.GM18208@waste.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1073608126.1228.16.camel@localhost>
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 07:28:47PM -0500, Robert Love wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 22:43, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> > Yes. We _could_ do that, by just making a "we noticed the disk change" be
> > a hotplug event. However, I'm loath to do that, because some devices
> > literally don't even have an easily read disk change signal, so what they
> > do is
>
> I like the idea of a hotplug event on media change (basically, a hotplug
> event for partitions). And, in fact, I am loath not to do it.
>
> The current direction with the kernel and udev is letting us move _away_
> from polling. Projects such as HAL are helping to finally integrate
> hardware management throughout the system. But HAL is going to be very
> confused by some of the alternative solutions for partitions: requiring
> that all of the partition device nodes preexist is going to really
> complicate things, and I really do not want to have to poll on all of
> them in order for HAL to have an idea of what partitions are valid.
>
> But I hear you loud and clear about dumb devices that cannot detect
> media change. They pose a problem.
If we have a hotplug media change event we can do:
if new device x appears:
x->device_nodes = all possible partition nodes
start_media_change_timer()
if media change on x:
x->device_nodes = current media partitions
clear_media_change_timer()
create_nodes(x)
if timeout: /* we didn't get media change so create all nodes */
create_nodes(x)
Then the dumb devices (which should be a small minority) just show up
with a harmless excess of partitions.
--
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Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-01-01 20:33 removable media revalidation - udev vs. devfs or static /dev Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-03 5:58 ` Greg KH
2004-01-03 8:51 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-03 12:37 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-03 12:42 ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-03 16:05 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-03 17:54 ` Jens Axboe
2004-01-07 9:43 ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-07 9:50 ` Jens Axboe
2004-01-07 9:56 ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-07 9:59 ` Jens Axboe
2004-01-07 10:25 ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-07 10:31 ` Jens Axboe
2004-01-07 10:47 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-07 10:54 ` Jens Axboe
2004-01-07 17:56 ` Greg KH
2004-01-30 12:59 ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-07 11:00 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-07 11:05 ` Jens Axboe
2004-01-07 11:14 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-07 11:16 ` Jens Axboe
2004-01-03 20:51 ` Greg KH
2004-01-07 18:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-07 18:57 ` Greg KH
2004-01-07 19:23 ` Mika Penttilä
2004-01-07 19:24 ` Greg KH
2004-01-07 19:31 ` Mika Penttilä
2004-01-08 1:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-07 19:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-07 19:50 ` Greg KH
2004-01-07 20:25 ` Richard Troth
2004-01-07 23:34 ` Greg KH
2004-01-08 0:32 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-01-08 0:41 ` Greg KH
2004-01-08 1:07 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-01-08 1:15 ` Greg KH
2004-01-08 1:50 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-01-08 1:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-08 0:42 ` viro
2004-01-08 1:16 ` Greg KH
2004-01-09 3:36 ` Joel Becker
2004-01-07 20:52 ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-08 2:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-08 4:16 ` Gene Heskett
2004-01-08 4:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-08 7:45 ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-08 2:13 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-08 2:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-08 2:49 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-08 2:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-08 3:35 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-08 3:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-08 8:00 ` Xavier Bestel
2004-01-09 0:28 ` Robert Love
2004-01-09 0:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-09 1:16 ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2004-01-08 14:06 ` "Andrey Borzenkov"
2004-01-12 9:09 ` Ling, Xiaofeng
2004-03-29 15:39 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-03-29 15:39 ` Greg KH
2004-03-29 15:40 ` Olaf Hering
2004-03-29 15:40 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-03-29 15:40 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-03-29 15:40 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-29 15:40 ` Greg KH
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