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From: Daniel Stekloff <dsteklof@us.ibm.com>
To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: udev and dbus
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 16:40:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200403120840.53555.dsteklof@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040217214449.GB12411@wonderland.linux.it>

On Friday 12 March 2004 03:37 am, David Zeuthen wrote:
> > I think the dbus people need to work on their "issues" a bit first
> > before we go and start changing udev.  Sound ok?
>
> Erh, what "issues" are you talking about? With both proposed changes
> dbus support would be removed from udev proper which I think is sane.
>
> What we're really arguing about is where projects higher in the stack
> than udev (like hal) should place their scripts. I'm saying /etc/udev.d
> and Kay is saying /etc/hotplug.d. FWIW, I can live with both proposals,
> though I think it's conceptually clearer to use /etc/udev.d. But let's
> not dicsuss the merits of these proposals again.


Hi, I'm curious - are the projects higher in the stack like hal only concerned 
with those devices named by udev? Or, are they interested in all system 
devices? The two sets aren't the same, udev is only concerned with a subset 
of system devices and doesn't manage or name all devices represented in /sys. 
I'd imagine that hal would be interested in all devices reported through /sys 
and if this is the case, shouldn't those projects then place their scripts in 
/etc/hotplug.d? 


Thanks,

Dan


> In either case the situation today is not acceptable. Today, there is no
> sane way (e.g. without polling) for projects above udev to get the
> information that a device node is created/removed. This is because that
> udev ships with dbus support turned off for the various reasons
> discussed earlier.
>
> So, Greg, as the udev and hotplug maintainer I think you need to make a
> decision on what to do, so we can remedy this situation and udev can
> continue to own the world :-)
>
> Anyway, I'm flexible.
>
> Many thanks,
> David
>
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-03-12 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-17 21:44 udev and DBUS Marco d'Itri
2004-02-26 17:00 ` Marco d'Itri
2004-02-28 14:13 ` David Zeuthen
2004-03-10 16:31 ` udev and dbus David Zeuthen
2004-03-10 17:52 ` Kay Sievers
2004-03-10 19:18 ` Greg KH
2004-03-10 19:56 ` Greg KH
2004-03-10 19:57 ` Marco d'Itri
2004-03-10 20:00 ` Marco d'Itri
2004-03-10 20:02 ` Greg KH
2004-03-10 22:25 ` Patrick Mansfield
2004-03-10 22:37 ` Kay Sievers
2004-03-10 22:48 ` Greg KH
2004-03-11  1:28 ` Greg KH
2004-03-11  2:35 ` Kay Sievers
2004-03-11  8:55 ` Martin Waitz
2004-03-11 14:30 ` Kay Sievers
2004-03-11 15:06 ` David Zeuthen
2004-03-11 17:14 ` Kay Sievers
2004-03-11 17:23 ` Kay Sievers
2004-03-11 17:30 ` David Zeuthen
2004-03-11 17:41 ` David Zeuthen
2004-03-11 17:44 ` Kay Sievers
2004-03-11 18:12 ` Kay Sievers
2004-03-11 18:22 ` David Zeuthen
2004-03-11 18:32 ` Greg KH
2004-03-11 18:35 ` Greg KH
2004-03-11 18:36 ` Greg KH
2004-03-11 18:37 ` Kay Sievers
2004-03-11 18:38 ` Kay Sievers
2004-03-11 18:40 ` Kay Sievers
2004-03-11 18:47 ` Greg KH
2004-03-11 18:56 ` Kay Sievers
2004-03-12  0:18 ` Greg KH
2004-03-12 11:37 ` David Zeuthen
2004-03-12 15:54 ` Kay Sievers
2004-03-12 16:40 ` Daniel Stekloff [this message]
2004-03-12 17:17 ` Marco d'Itri
2004-03-12 17:26 ` Marco d'Itri
2004-03-13 15:22 ` David Zeuthen
2004-03-13 18:29 ` Kay Sievers
2004-03-14 19:59 ` Olaf Hering
2004-03-14 20:06 ` Kay Sievers
2004-03-14 20:11 ` Olaf Hering

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